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Re: [linuxiran] quick question


From: Aryan Ameri
Subject: Re: [linuxiran] quick question
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 14:32:01 +0300
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On Wednesday 08 September 2004 05:10, Arash Partow wrote:
> Hello Arash,
>
> I spoke to him sometime ago, however since then the issue has become
> whether anyone can prove the index is from any particular version of
> Aryanpour, in any case from my discussions we never really settled the
> matter in any kind of decisive manner.
>
> As far as risk is concerned I plan to distribute the reverse index freely,
> I don't intend to make a profit from it, however the question remains if
> it is seen as a derivative work then I may have a moral obligation to the
> Aryanpour group.

My partial understanding of copyright law makes me believe that your work will 
be considered as derivative work. It clearly is not original work, hence I 
guess any court will call it derivative. Whether the copyright holders care 
about unlicensed derivative works or not, doesn't matter, cause as long as 
you don't have the license from the copyright holder to use his/her work as 
the basis of your work, then they are able to sue you someday, somehow. Maybe 
the current copyright holder don't care, but who knows, they might sell their 
rights to someone else, and that someone else might not be that generous. 
Also the fact that you plan to distribute your work for free doesn't make 
things much different, because if you violate the copyright law, well then 
you are in violation of the law, no matter if you personally profited from 
the act or not. e.g the copyright holder might argue that you have caused 
him/her a certain amount of money in lost sales, because your derivative work 
eclipsed his own sales, and then you will be held liable for compensation. 

About your algorithm, I am no linguist, but your reverse methodology sounded 
logical to me. It might have some flaw though which I wasn't able to see, I 
am not sure.
>
>
> Anywayz whats your impression about the reversing methodology? is it sound?
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Arash
>
> __________________________________________________
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> Instead of being one who knows not what they don't know,
> Thinking they know everything about all things.
> http://www.partow.net
>
> Arash Zeini wrote:
>  > Hi Arash,
>  >
>  > I have partly followed the other discussions. My understanding was and
>  > is that there is no official statement in this regard, but that the
>  > family Aryanpour does not mind derivative work based on the original
>  > dictionary.
>  >
>  > But I am not sure, rely on this on your own risk. Behdad Esfahbod may
>  > know more in this regard.
>  >
>  > Greetings,
>  > Arash
>  >
>  > In a message dated Tuesday 07 September 2004 14:49, Arash Partow wrote:
>  >>Hi all,
>  >>
>  >>whats the current state with the "supposedly" leaked aryanpour
>  >>dictionary? Does anyone have any info on this issue? Some people
>  >>from other lists have been debating this issue for some time now.
>  >>
>  >>I plan to write a small app which will reverse the index to make a
>  >>persian to english mapping possible, would this new index be seen
>  >>as a derivative of the dictionary if it is found that the original
>  >>source is Aryanpour?
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>on more of a technical side, I'm still not 100% sure if my methodology
>  >>is correct, in any case I plan to reverse the index using the
>  >>following fact:
>  >>
>  >>if there is a mapping from english to persian like so:
>  >>
>  >>abc :: xyz, ijk
>  >>
>  >>then the reverse mapping from persian to english would be so:
>  >>
>  >>xyz :: abc
>  >>ijk :: abc
>  >>
>  >>a more extended example would be:
>  >>
>  >>abc :: xyz, ijk
>  >>def :: qrs, ijk
>  >>
>  >>then the reverse mapping would be:
>  >>
>  >>xyz:: abc
>  >>ijk:: abc, def
>  >>qrs:: def
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>Is this logic correct from a linguistic point of view? if not,
>  >>could someone give me some examples of where it falls over etc...
>  >>
>  >>Any help would be very much appreciated.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>Arash Partow
>  >>
>  >>__________________________________________________
>  >>Be one who knows what they don't know,
>  >>Instead of being one who knows not what they don't know,
>  >>Thinking they know everything about all things.
>  >>http://www.partow.net
>
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