Re: [Savannah-help-public] Redirecting bug-gnu-emacs to emacsbugs

[Stefan Monnier]

Hi,

We're trying to use a Debbugs to manage bug reports for the
Emacs project.  For various reason, it is necessary to reuse the
address@hidden email address for bug submission as well as the
bug-gnu-emacs mailing-list for distribution of the discussions about
bugs, so we need to insert the Debbugs in between the
address@hidden address and the bug-gnu-emacs Mailman list.

Stephen J. Turnbull says that a clean way to do it is to add a special
Mailman Handler for the bug-gnu-emacs list which would redirect to
Debbugs all the email that is not coming from Debbugs.  Can you help us
out here?


        Stefan


>>>>> "Sylvain" == Sylvain Beucler <address@hidden> writes:

> On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 09:01:48AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>> > >>>>> "Sylvain" == Sylvain Beucler <address@hidden> writes:
>> > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 09:55:11PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> 
>> > >> >> All email sent to address@hidden should not go to Mailman,
>> > >> >> but instead it should be forwarded to
>> > >> >> address@hidden
>> > >> >> 
>> > >> >> Then all mail currently sent from Emacsbugs to the
>> > >> >> address@hidden mailing list should be distributed to
>> > >> >> the members of the bug-gnu-emacs mailing list.
>> 
>> > >> > Well, there's no magic. The only working
>> > >> > "address@hidden" adress is "address@hidden",
>> > >> > so if you want to make that one point to somewhere else, we need to
>> > >> > rename the Mailman mailing list.
>> 
>> I don't think this is true.  AFAIK Mailman knows nothing and cares
>> less about the envelope recipient.
>> 
>> So you should currently have an alias (sendmail-style, and I'm kinda
>> guessing here, depends on Mailman version and suchlike)
>> 
>> bug-gnu-emacs:               "|/var/lib/mailman/bin/mailman post 
>> bug-gnu-emacs"
>> 
>> Change that to
>> 
>> bug-gnu-emacs:               address@hidden
>> bug-gnu-emacs-really:        "|/var/lib/mailman/bin/mailman post 
>> bug-gnu-emacs"
>> 
>> Obviously you need the right configuration of the debbugs program at
>> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, pointing back to "bug-gnu-emacs-really".
>> Season nomenclature to taste (-recipients made line-length 82 columns ;-).
>> 
>> Note that you now have three addresses where spam can get into the
>> pipeline.  I don't know how these "internal" addresses leak out, but
>> they sometimes do.  So you may wish to restrict the envelope sender to
>> bug-gnu-emacs-really to be "emacsbugs".  You probably also want to
>> ensure that traffic to "submit" always goes via the "bug-gnu-emacs"
>> alias, or you need to make "address@hidden" be an
>> alias of bug-gnu-emacs in the Mailman interface.

> Hi,

> We don't have root access to the lists.gnu.org computer, so this kind
> of thing is outside our reach. Please contact address@hidden to see
> if they can do something.

> Consider that lists.gnu.org hosts thousands of lists - this is
> mass-hosting. There isn't a series of hand-made aliases, but a set of
> custom Exim rules that deliver all @gnu.org and @nongnu.org to Mailman
> or other places (such as fencepost) dependending on various factors.

> -- 
> Sylvain