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Re: [Qemu-ppc] [PATCH RFC 3/4] target-ppc: use atomic_cmpxchg for ld/st


From: David Gibson
Subject: Re: [Qemu-ppc] [PATCH RFC 3/4] target-ppc: use atomic_cmpxchg for ld/st reservation
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 15:34:59 +1000
User-agent: Mutt/1.7.0 (2016-08-17)

On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 10:17:42AM +0530, Nikunj A Dadhania wrote:
> David Gibson <address@hidden> writes:
> 
> > [ Unknown signature status ]
> > On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 12:02:55PM +0530, Nikunj A Dadhania wrote:
> >> Signed-off-by: Nikunj A Dadhania <address@hidden>
> >
> > This really needs a comment indicating that this implementation isn't
> > strictly correct (although probably good enough in practice).
> 
> Sure. And it also does not help if someone uses any store other than
> store conditional, that isn't taken care.
> 
> Assumption here is the locking primitives use load with reservation and
> store conditional. And no other ld/st variant touch this memory.

So, a) I don't think this really relies on that: an ordinary store
(assuming it changes the value) will still get picked up the cmpxchg.
Well.. at least after a suitable memory barrier.  Matching memory
models between emulated and host cpus is a whole other kettle of fish.

I think this does matter, IIRC a kernel spin unlock on ppc is a
barrier + plain store, no load locked or store conditional.

> > Specifically a racing store which happens to store the same value
> > which was already in memory should clobber the reservation, but won't
> > with this implementation.
> >
> > I had a long discussion at KVM Forum with Emilio Costa about this, in
> > which I discovered just how hard it is to strictly implement
> > store-conditional semantics in terms of anything else.  So, this is
> > probably a reasonable substitute, but we should note the fact that
> > it's not 100%.
> 
> I will update the commit log.
> 
> Regards,
> Nikunj
> 

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