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Re: GICv3 for MTTCG


From: Alex Bennée
Subject: Re: GICv3 for MTTCG
Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 18:19:28 +0100
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Andrey Shinkevich <andrey.shinkevich@huawei.com> writes:

> Dear colleagues,
>
> Thank you all very much for your responses. Let me reply with one message.
>
> I configured QEMU for AARCH64 guest:
> $ ./configure --target-list=aarch64-softmmu
>
> When I start QEMU with GICv3 on an x86 host:
> qemu-system-aarch64 -machine virt-6.0,accel=tcg,gic-version=3

Hmm are you sure you are running your built QEMU? For me the following
works fine:

  ./aarch64-softmmu/qemu-system-aarch64 -machine 
virt-6.0,gic-version=3,accel=tcg -cpu max -serial mon:stdio -nic 
user,model=virtio-net-pci,hostfwd=tcp::2222-:22 -device virtio-scsi-pci -device 
scsi-hd,drive=hd0 -blockdev 
driver=raw,node-name=hd0,discard=unmap,file.driver=host_device,file.filename=/dev/zvol/hackpool-0/debian-buster-arm64
 -kernel
~/lsrc/linux.git/builds/arm64.nopreempt/arch/arm64/boot/Image -append 
"console=ttyAMA0 root=/dev/sda2" -display none -m 8G,maxmem=8G -smp 12


>
> QEMU reports this error from hw/pci/msix.c:
> error_setg(errp, "MSI-X is not supported by interrupt controller");
>
> Probably, the variable 'msi_nonbroken' would be initialized in
> hw/intc/arm_gicv3_its_common.c:
> gicv3_its_init_mmio(..)
>
> I guess that it works with KVM acceleration only rather than with TCG.
>
> The error persists after applying the series:
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-arm/2021-04/msg00944.html
> "GICv3 LPI and ITS feature implementation"
> (special thanks for referring me to that)
>
> Please, make me clear and advise ideas how that error can be fixed?
> Should the MSI-X support be implemented with GICv3 extra?
>
> When successful, I would like to test QEMU for a maximum number of cores 
> to get the best MTTCG performance.
> Probably, we will get just some percentage of performance enhancement 
> with the BQL series applied, won't we? I will test it as well.
>
> Best regards,
> Andrey Shinkevich
>
>
> On 5/12/21 6:43 PM, Alex Bennée wrote:
>> 
>> Andrey Shinkevich <andrey.shinkevich@huawei.com> writes:
>> 
>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>
>>> I am looking for ways to accelerate the MTTCG for ARM guest on x86-64 host.
>>> The maximum number of CPUs for MTTCG that uses GICv2 is limited by 8:
>>>
>>> include/hw/intc/arm_gic_common.h:#define GIC_NCPU 8
>>>
>>> The version 3 of the Generic Interrupt Controller (GICv3) is not
>>> supported in QEMU for some reason unknown to me. It would allow to
>>> increase the limit of CPUs and accelerate the MTTCG performance on a
>>> multiple core hypervisor.
>> 
>> It is supported, you just need to select it.
>> 
>>> I have got an idea to implement the Interrupt Translation Service (ITS)
>>> for using by MTTCG for ARM architecture.
>> 
>> There is some work to support ITS under TCG already posted:
>> 
>>    Subject: [PATCH v3 0/8] GICv3 LPI and ITS feature implementation
>>    Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 19:41:53 -0400
>>    Message-Id: <20210429234201.125565-1-shashi.mallela@linaro.org>
>> 
>> please do review and test.
>> 
>>> Do you find that idea useful and feasible?
>>> If yes, how much time do you estimate for such a project to complete by
>>> one developer?
>>> If no, what are reasons for not implementing GICv3 for MTTCG in QEMU?
>> 
>> As far as MTTCG performance is concerned there is a degree of
>> diminishing returns to be expected as the synchronisation cost between
>> threads will eventually outweigh the gains of additional threads.
>> 
>> There are a number of parts that could improve this performance. The
>> first would be picking up the BQL reduction series from your FutureWei
>> colleges who worked on the problem when they were Linaro assignees:
>> 
>>    Subject: [PATCH v2 0/7] accel/tcg: remove implied BQL from 
>> cpu_handle_interrupt/exception path
>>    Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 14:28:49 -0400
>>    Message-Id: <20200819182856.4893-1-robert.foley@linaro.org>
>> 
>> There was also a longer series moving towards per-CPU locks:
>> 
>>    Subject: [PATCH v10 00/73] per-CPU locks
>>    Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 17:01:18 -0400
>>    Message-Id: <20200617210231.4393-1-robert.foley@linaro.org>
>> 
>> I believe the initial measurements showed that the BQL cost started to
>> edge up with GIC interactions. We did discuss approaches for this and I
>> think one idea was use non-BQL locking for the GIC. You would need to
>> revert:
>> 
>>    Subject: [PATCH-for-5.2] exec: Remove MemoryRegion::global_locking field
>>    Date: Thu,  6 Aug 2020 17:07:26 +0200
>>    Message-Id: <20200806150726.962-1-philmd@redhat.com>
>> 
>> and then implement a more fine tuned locking in the GIC emulation
>> itself. However I think the BQL and per-CPU locks are lower hanging
>> fruit to tackle first.
>> 
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Andrey Shinkevich
>> 
>> 


-- 
Alex Bennée



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