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Re: [PULL 6/6] MAINTAINERS: Add 'Performance Tools and Tests' subsection


From: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
Subject: Re: [PULL 6/6] MAINTAINERS: Add 'Performance Tools and Tests' subsection
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 12:49:54 +0200
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On 7/1/20 12:32 PM, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> On 6/29/20 12:28 PM, Aleksandar Markovic wrote:
>> понедељак, 29. јун 2020., Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <f4bug@amsat.org
>> <mailto:f4bug@amsat.org>> је написао/ла:
>>
>>     On 6/27/20 9:51 PM, Aleksandar Markovic wrote:
>>     > This commit creates a new 'Miscellaneous' section which hosts a new
>>     > 'Performance Tools and Tests' subsection. This subsection will contain
>>     > the the performance scripts and benchmarks written as a part of the
>>     > 'TCG Continuous Benchmarking' project. Also, it will be a placeholder
>>     > for follow-ups to this project, if any.
>>     >
>>     > Signed-off-by: Ahmed Karaman <ahmedkhaledkaraman@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:ahmedkhaledkaraman@gmail.com>>
>>     > Reviewed-by: Alex Bennée <alex.bennee@linaro.org
>>     <mailto:alex.bennee@linaro.org>>
>>     > Reviewed-by: Aleksandar Markovic <aleksandar.qemu.devel@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:aleksandar.qemu.devel@gmail.com>>
>>     > Signed-off-by: Aleksandar Markovic
>>     <aleksandar.qemu.devel@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:aleksandar.qemu.devel@gmail.com>>
>>     > Message-Id: <20200626164546.22102-4-ahmedkhaledkaraman@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:20200626164546.22102-4-ahmedkhaledkaraman@gmail.com>>
>>     > ---
>>     >  MAINTAINERS | 10 ++++++++--
>>     >  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>     >
>>     > diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
>>     > index fe925ea..dec252f 100644
>>     > --- a/MAINTAINERS
>>     > +++ b/MAINTAINERS
>>     > @@ -1096,11 +1096,10 @@ F: hw/isa/vt82c686.c
>>     >  F: hw/pci-host/bonito.c
>>     >  F: include/hw/isa/vt82c686.h
>>     > 
>>     > -Loongson-3 Virtual Platform
>>     > +Loongson-3 virtual platforms
>>     >  M: Huacai Chen <chenhc@lemote.com <mailto:chenhc@lemote.com>>
>>     >  R: Jiaxun Yang <jiaxun.yang@flygoat.com
>>     <mailto:jiaxun.yang@flygoat.com>>
>>     >  S: Maintained
>>     > -F: hw/mips/loongson3_virt.c
>>
>>     Ah, now I see, here you unlist the uncommited file.
>>
>>
>> This file/machine, for multiple reasons, will not be accepted in 5.1.
> 
> Ah, so that confirms we have to revert commit c012e0b1f9 ("hw/intc: Add
> Loongson LIOINTC support"). Can you send a patch please?
> 
>> The end user will not be able to see, let alone use the machine in
>> question in 5.1. This is on purpose.
>>
>> This will give enough development time to Huacai to implement missing
>> bits and pieces, and to possibly improve the whole idea during 5.2
>> development cycle.
> 
> Sounds reasonable.
> 
>>
>> Even though the support that Huacai introduced in 5.1 is, for many
>> reasons, not completed, and even though Huacai and I had at times
>> opposing views and fierce discussions and disagreements - I salute and
>> support his work, and consider it, by far, the best and the most
>> important contribution to QEMU for MIPS in years.
>>
>>  
>>
>>     It might be easier to manage sending 2 different pull requests,
>>     on for MIPS and one for the performance tools.
>>
>>     >  F: hw/intc/loongson_liointc.c
>>     > 
>>     >  Boston
>>     > @@ -3026,3 +3025,10 @@ M: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org
>>     <mailto:peter.maydell@linaro.org>>
>>     >  S: Maintained
>>     >  F: docs/conf.py
>>     >  F: docs/*/conf.py
>>     > +
>>     > +Miscellaneous
>>     > +-------------
>>     > +Performance Tools and Tests
>>     > +M: Ahmed Karaman <ahmedkhaledkaraman@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:ahmedkhaledkaraman@gmail.com>>
>>
>>     Aleksandar, don't you want to be listed here with Ahmed?
>>
>>
>> Of course not. The project is student's. The mentor just helps and leads
>> the student. The fruits of the project belong to the community and to
>> the student - and not to the mentor.
>>
>> If you were the mentor, my impression is that you would leave your name
>> in MAINTAINERS whenever you see the slightest opportunity (I remember an
>> occasion where you were saying "I worked six hours on this" and then
>> proposing yourself as the maitainer for a particular segment (??)).
> 
> '??' means you are not sure? Please link reference to discussions.
> I volunteered to help maintaining areas when nobody were doing anything,
> if that forces others to step in because they are more qualified, I'm
> glad I did it. See for example the Renesas ports have qualified
> maintainers!
> 
>> I
>> don't have such approach, and I oppose your approach, and I appeal to
>> you to control your apetite for maintainership.

Now I understand your comment here:
https://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg711448.html

"I guess it is just a matter of time Philippe would ask for SPARC
 maintainership. Mark, would you perhaps accept Philippe as a
 co-maintainer?"

It was not ironic, it was a trap. I already asked you why you keep
tracking my contributions, trying to demotivate me. Is this personal?

> 
> I am not looking for more maintenance, I'm looking to cover abandonned
> areas I use. I have been taught by the do-ocracy principle. I'v not been
> dropped in as replacement for someone else position, only trying to keep
> things unmodified, scared a minimal change would break.
> 
>>
>> Regards,
>> Aleksandar
>>
>>  
>>
>>     > +S: Maintained
>>     > +F: scripts/performance/
>>     >
>>
> 



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