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Re: Is the 3.8 "release ” official?


From: PhilipNienhuis
Subject: Re: Is the 3.8 "release ” official?
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 01:34:20 -0800 (PST)

Daniel Sebald wrote
> On 12/30/2013 11:34 AM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
>> On Mon, 2013-12-30 at 10:45 -0500, Michael D. Godfrey wrote:
>>
>>> I agree. Announce it has been released.
>>
>> I thought a release announcement would be quite disappointing for most
>> people since most people (yes, most) won't be able to install Octave,
>> and this disappointment would be large enough to overshadow any other
>> achievements that the new release has done.
>>
>> But you guys seem to think that I'm wrong, and that we should announce
>> the release now. I thought we only had one chance to make a good first
>> impression with the new release, but maybe we'll have another chance
>> with 4.0.
> 
> That's what the discussion a month or two ago was about.  The consensus 
> seemed to be that we'd pull back and make the "fanfare" release of the 
> GUI in 4.0.  As Carlo pointed out, waiting on binaries for Windows and 
> OX has taken time.  It's been in the process of wrapping up a release 
> since the middle of 2013.  I think it just points to the fact that 
> software development is least time consuming on the Linux.
> 
> Would it make sense to create a branch point of 3.8 for Windows and OSX 
> that have only Windows (in one branch) and OSX (in another branch) 
> changes?  When those are working, make versions 3.8.1 and 3.8.2 
> according to whichever is ready first.

"Branch point" ?
There is already http://hg.octave.org/mxe-octave

I can't vouch for OSX binaries, but these days making a Windows binary
installer merely requires a minute or so of editing and a few mouse
clicks/commands followed by a ~2.5 hours coffee break (or time slot for
useful other work) while the build process proceeds, thanks to the work of
a.o., the two Johns, Michael & Anirudha on MXE.
So that has already been tackled.

The more relevant or even urgent issues are where to put binaries up, and
what should be included (in terms of OF packages, external dependency libs,
etc.).
This has been asked before but answers/opinions haven't come yet, while IMO
now is really the time to decide. Once there's agreement the rest is just a
breeze.

Is this to be left up to the few Windows developers/contributors? (and
similarly, to the OSX builders for OSX binaries?)

Perhaps a "minimal" Windows binary (=just Octave itself, no or minimal
packages) on Octave-Forge (can perhaps even be done today), and a more
luxurious one (OF packages etc.) accompanied by a donation hint somewhere
else (could wait a a little while)?

Philip




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