Re: Aligning note to different voice across staves

[Pierre Perol-Schneider]

Hi Thibault, hi Carl,

Carl, your workaround's find but the hidden stem and flag could affect the staff-staff spacings.

(A hidden whole/half note would affect the horizontal spacing)

E.g. :

\version "2.22.0"

\new PianoStaff <<
  \new Staff << \relative { e'16 f g e e f g e } \\ d'2 >>
  \new Staff { \clef bass e8 g e c }
>>

\new PianoStaff <<
  \new Staff << \relative { e'16 f g e e f g e } \\ d'2 s >>
  \new Staff { \clef bass << { \hideNotes f16 } \\ { e8 g e c } >> }
>>

% vs:
 
\new PianoStaff <<
  \new Staff << \relative { e'16 f g e e f g e } \\ d'2 s >>
  \new Staff { \clef bass << { \hideNotes\omit Stem f4 } \\ { e8 g e c } >> }
>>

% vs:
 
\new PianoStaff <<
  \new Staff << \relative { e'16 f g e e f g e } \\ d'2 s >>
  \new Staff { \clef bass << { \hideNotes f1 } \\ { e8 g e c } >> }
>>

BTW, one basic question : is it a convention that an alto voice be align to the lower voice ?

Cheers,

Pierre

Le mar. 2 févr. 2021 à 19:28, Thibaut Horel <thibaut.horel@gmail.com> a écrit :

When trying to typeset the attached bit of music (this is bar 18 of the
Fugue in BWV 881), I encountered a problem captured by the following
minimal example:

------
\version "2.22.0"
\new PianoStaff <<
    \new Staff << \relative{e'16 f g e} \\ d'4 >>
    \new Staff { \clef bass e8[ g] }
  >>
------

In this example, I would like the e8 in the lower staff to be aligned
with the d4 in the upper staff. However, because of a note head
collision, the d4 in the upper staff is shifted to the right, and the e8
from the lower staff is instead aligned with the e16 in the upper staff.

I was able to obtain the correct behavior by adding \once\override
NoteColumn.X-offset = 1.25 before the e8 in the lower staff. But there
are two things I don't like about this solution:

1. if I understand correctly, X-offset is measured in staff-space, so I
am worried this might not scale properly when changing the note head
size (for example by using a different font). It would be nicer to be
able to express the offset in note head width, as for the force-hshift
property for example.

2. My solution requires trial and error to find the correct value for
the X-offset, whereas what I am trying to achieve can be expressed
easily at the semantic level: I would like the e8 in the lower staff to
be considered part of the second voice of the upper staff for vertical
alignment purposes (in particular it should be shifted at the same time
in case of a collision).

Is there a better way to achieve what I am trying to do? Any insight
into this problem would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Thibaut