Re: How to get swing feel from dotted notation?

[Blöchl Bernhard]

Music is written to be easily readable, and the musician is trusted to 
adopt the correct performance practice. But midi is not a feeling 
musician, it is a machine. It does not know the swing concept of unequal 
durations.

In conventional notation there is only possible 50/50 and 75/25, the 
equivalent of a dotted quaver and a consequent semiquaver. The real 
swing has a duration relation of about 67/33 (music scientists say) 
while the notation shows a relationship of 50/50.

Is'nt it possible to provide a "swing button" for 67/33 for to make the 
midi file swinging, but leaves the 50/50 notation in the pdf untouched?




Am 31.03.2016 08:51, schrieb David Kastrup:
> Henry Law <address@hidden> writes:
>
> > On 31/03/16 01:48, Colin Campbell wrote:
> > > into more of a triplet effect
> >
> > If I, as a sometime jazz player, were trying to communicate the effect
> > of "swing" then I'd say, summarising brutally and rather inaccurately,
> > "It's written as 4/4 but played as 12/8."
> >
> > In other words the player adds something that's not written down,
>
> If typeset properly, the spacing will be swung as well (if you have 2
> eighths against 3 eighth triplets, the second eighth will be aligned
> with the last triplet, for example).
>
> > which is going to make it rather hard for you to generate MIDI which,
> > since it's generated from the written-down bits, is /ipso facto/
> > lacking the "feel" that the player adds.
>
> 8*4/3 8*2/3 should work for both typesetting as well as Midi.  But 
> you'd
> really want to have some music function to do the swinging rather than
> having to do it manually for every note.