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Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?
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Janek Warchoł |
Subject: |
Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer? |
Date: |
Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:42:39 +0200 |
2011/7/11 Werner LEMBERG <address@hidden>:
> Thanks for providing such tests. My preference: Your new clef shape
> having the size of the old one...
;)
If we deicide to include more than 1 clef glyph in the font (and
choose them similarly to choosing between single- and double-lined
breve), it'll be possible to create such variant :)
2011/7/11 Han-Wen Nienhuys <address@hidden>:
>
> It looks like you've done a lot of homework, congraturations :-)
Thank you :-)
> From a quick (on-screen) look, I think I prefer the 3rd overall,
3rd? Are you referring to the third clef from my first mail, i.e. the
right one from the png containing 3 clefs?
Both clefs from the first mail are now obsolete - significant number
of people complained that they are too small, so i made another
version. See "clef-demo new proposal.pdf" attached to this mail.
> but I think the loop could be a little larger,
the loop in the new version is larger than in original proposal, but
still smaller than our current Feta clef.
> and the curvature of the 2
> thick diagonal parts of the loop could be more synchronized. May be
> the curve on the top left could be straighter?
Hmm, i don't know what you mean. Could you sketch it please?
> Also, can you double
> check if the size of the below bulb is what you want?
below bulb = the dot at the bottom?
I think it's fine.
I tried to modify it out of curiosity, but i haven't figured out how to do this.
> As an overall comment: each individual glyph of the font was inspired
> by nice engravings, but we haven't done much coordination of the
> overall font, so I agree with some of the criticism that Gonville's
> creator fielded, and I don't make much claims that the font is in a
> perfect state of coordination.
>
> The G-clef IIRC was inspired by a copy of Auf dem Strom for Horn &
> Piano. I can send you a scan later,
I'll gladly see it.
> I think the large airy
> loop was a nice gesture, but like the funny names of the .mf files,
> the time may have come to let go of it.
:)
> Aside from the debatable merits of the airiness of the loop I have
> never been 100% satisfied with the clef. I tried to have the
> following features:
>
> * symmetry in the various curves (see my comment above)
> * 2 lines of the loop meeting exactly on the staff-line
I think that if we tried to do precisely this, the distance between
center ant outer line of the spiral (near the middle line of the
staff) would become too small.
> * a 'nice' downward stroke - this was the hardest: the downward stroke
> should have the directness of a straight line, but it cannot actually
> be straight, because the transitions between curved and straight would
> be awkward. In that respect, I like the original 3rd proposal a lot.
Thanks!
cheers,
Janek
clef-demo new proposal.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
clef-demo current Lily.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
- Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?, (continued)
- Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?, Janek Warchoł, 2011/07/08
- Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?, Janek Warchoł, 2011/07/09
- Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?, James Worlton, 2011/07/09
- Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?, Werner LEMBERG, 2011/07/10
- Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?, Martin Tarenskeen, 2011/07/10
- Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?, Jan Nieuwenhuizen, 2011/07/10
- Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?, Janek Warchoł, 2011/07/11
- Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?, Janek Warchoł, 2011/07/11
- Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?, Werner LEMBERG, 2011/07/11
- Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?, Han-Wen Nienhuys, 2011/07/11
- Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?,
Janek Warchoł <=
- Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?, Werner LEMBERG, 2011/07/10
- Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?, Dmytro O. Redchuk, 2011/07/10
- Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?, Reinhold Kainhofer, 2011/07/10
- Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?, Dmytro O. Redchuk, 2011/07/10
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Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?, Martin Tarenskeen, 2011/07/06
Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?, Trevor Daniels, 2011/07/06
Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?, Luca Rossetto Casel, 2011/07/06
Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?, Matthew Collett, 2011/07/06
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