Re: internationalization and txi-ll.tex files

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

Thank you Gavin.

I'm checking my TeX installation and it appears that I have TeXLive 2019, the 
basic version. That may be the reason. I'll be updating to the no-gui version 
and see if things work better.

JC

> On Jan 18, 2020, at 22:10, Gavin Smith <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 9:08 AM Jean-Christophe Helary
> <address@hidden> wrote:
>> 
>> I've added @documentlanguage fr_FR at the beginning of my file but footnotes 
>> were still grouped under a "Footnotes" header in the html output.
>> 
> 
> I don't know why this is. I got the correct translation  "Notes de bas
> de page" with a simple test file I tried.
> 
>> The manual mentions txi-ll.tex files, so I looked for the French one and 
>> could not find the string for the footnotes header, but it happens that the 
>> txi file for English does not include it either...
> 
> The txi-LL.tex files are not used for outputting to HTML, only when
> outputting to dvi or PDF. The manual could be clearer in this regard.
> The translation is done through gettext. The translation file should
> be found somewhere like
> /usr/local/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/texinfo_document.mo (depending
> on where Texinfo is installed).
> 
>> Then it occured to me that I was checking my git checkout of the program and 
>> not what was actually on my machine, which is the brew package for macos. I 
>> checked there and there were no txi files whatsoever.
> 
> In that case, strings won't be translated properly when outputting to TeX.
>> So, I have 3 questions:
>> 
>> 1) is there a longer list of English terms that should be in txi-en.tex but 
>> for some reason are not?
> 
> No.
> 
>> 2) HTML.pm has a  _translate_names subroutine that seems to care about the 
>> value of documentlanguage and that also seems to call a "Footnotes" string 
>> but I'm not seeing from where it calls it and obvisouly it's not calling 
>> much since the output is wrong.
>>   → if that's the case, I don't have a good enough level to fix that, but if 
>> it is just a matter of providing the appropriate strings, I can do that.
> 
> There is already a French translation, it just needs to be installed properly.
> 
>> 3) in a standard texinfo distribution, where are the txi files supposed to 
>> be? If there is a problem with the brew package that's something that should 
>> be fixed.
> 
> It depends on the TeX distribution. I have TeX Live 2017 installed on
> Debian and the files are under /usr/share/texmf/tex/texinfo/.
> 

Jean-Christophe Helary
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