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Re: [Health] grasp data from paper and report of it with proteus, how?


From: Tom Blecher
Subject: Re: [Health] grasp data from paper and report of it with proteus, how?
Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 10:37:32 +0200

Hello Edgar,
nice to meet you.
Excuse me for waiting so much time, I was some days off.
 
To your questions:
-Tutorials: There are mainly two tutorials on proteus, afaik, one video from 2013 Tryton conference to be found on their hp.
And one in the readme file of the package. And yes: After long chatting I understood that the only feasible way of accessing is by the xml-rpc interface, searching by tryton chat logs will give some hints in case of question.
-On Proteus:
Proteus turned out to be rather a tryton program, which is hardly used- but -this is to remark - therefore the even more necessary: Tryton fullfills by that something that FreeCAD calls mirroring, at least some basic mirroring (always being able of switching between non-interactive and interactive user access)
Moreover: Proteus seems to be used for inner testing purposes fortunately.
-On ocr:
-The typical solution in a hospital information system and archiving system in an Austrian hospital nowadays would be:
- make a (paper) copy of the medical report that the patient provides for the doctor and put it into the records
 
Thank you for that information!
So "put into" means that they have in case of doubt: hand work.?!
So I it is to say, I am working (searching) on an ocr-solution.There are some free ocr tools around. And I have read a post from 2010 where they say xsane free software had already some ocr integrated.
 
The question marks above indicates that I hardly can believe that yet. In all these bureaus of 2015's world they, they do not use OCR, yet?
 
On the report:
I wanted to build some hello-World script with it. So the report could be an arbitrary sentence "<Owner of the place read from database of gnuhospital> greets: Hello World", located in the middle of a page.
 
 
 
So if you or else someone knows of a preferably non-interactive way of such an hello world report, I would be glad, for a few lines of script, anyway.
 
On the conversation:
>I call this tool-chain or work flow and how could then a tool chain of data-on-paper-to-computer-data been
>sketched and how could its availabilitity hold for being later or now discussed on.

Yes, this woul be really cool.

>On that I would like to open a conversation.
I want to join the conversation ;)
 
 
So what might one believe: are there any sense and_ chance that such an OCR-Tool-Chain will be integrated in (especially free) future development?
Are there maybe risks? Such as waste of effort? Would it be a big step forward against (non-free) competitors? Other relevant aspects?
Opinions?
 
Regards
 
 
 
 
 
 
22.05.2015, 09:13, "Edgar Hagenbichler" <address@hidden>:
Hello Tom, 

>How is done in the typical applications nowadays
>- of the real world cases of tryton like you and of which you_ know of-
>the typical solution for grasping data from let's say a paper and make a report of it?

The typical solution in a hospital information system and archiving system in an Austrian hospital nowadays would be:
- make a (paper) copy of the medical report that the patient provides for the doctor and put it into the records
- after the hospital stay: scan the whole bundle of the clinical records (that means e.g. the medical reports and charts of the stay, and the paper copy mentioned above)
- (the scan has to meet a lot of legal obligations, e.g. in precision, data security, time of archiving, etc.)
- tag the whole scan with patient´s data (name, birth date, internal code for the stay)
Usually you have no possibility to retrieve the data easily, you have to look for the whole scan and find the piece of interest for you.

>Let' say making use of proteus:
Could please give a link to proteus? Is it free software?

>use the scanner adf as software interface, for example bash
>use a free ocr tool, by free software
ok
>use tryton to have an say report from the data.
How exactly to get the report? Do you want to structure the data further? (What would be necessary IMHO)

>I call this tool-chain or work flow and how could then a tool chain of data-on-paper-to-computer-data been
>sketched and how could its availabilitity hold for being later or now discussed on.

Yes, this woul be really cool.

>On that I would like to open a conversation.
I want to join the conversation ;)

 >It is that I wanted to invest time for investigating this things on my on: Is it not done with a handful proteus commands?
Could you please provide more information, e.g. a link to a tutorial for proteus?
Many thanks!
Best regards
Edgar

 

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