Re: Scala package

[Daniel Trujillo Viedma]

El 18/5/21 a las 11:44, Ricardo Wurmus escribió:
> Leo Prikler <leo.prikler@student.tugraz.at> writes:
>
> > Hi Julien,
> >
> > Am Dienstag, den 18.05.2021, 01:01 +0200 schrieb Julien Lepiller:
> > > Hi Guix!
> > >
> > > I have the attached file that build Scala, although it's not
> > > bootstrapped at all. It contains %binary-scala, a few dependencies of
> > > Scala we haven't packaged yet, and the final scala, built from
> > > %binary-scala, without sbt (which requires Scala too).
> > >
> > > Since I've tried and failed to bootstrap Scala for so long, I think
> > > it's time to give up. I can't always create miracles.
> >
> > Some points relevant to bootstrapping:
> > - The last version, that ships "scalai" written in Java seems to be   
> > v1.4.0+4.  Perhaps one can use scalai to bootstrap scalac within it.
> > - The last version, that does not "require" sbt is 2.11.x,
> >   though with your workaround we can also build later versions.
>
> We tried building a clean bootstrap chain for Scala for years. Back 
> then I went down the rabbit hole and found that early scalac is 
> written in Pizza; but it turned out that Pizza is written in Pizza and 
> is released under the old Artistic License, which is considered non-free.
>
>    https://logs.guix.gnu.org/guix/2018-04-08.log#230002
>    https://logs.guix.gnu.org/guix/2018-04-09.log#073740
>
> I pointed a branch at an old Scala commit that contains the old Socos 
> compiler source, which ostensibly are written in Java, but actually 
> are not:
>
>    https://github.com/rekado/scala-bootstrap/tree/bootstrap
>
> This is at around version 1.4.0.4, as you wrote above.
>
> Since the old days Scala Native has grown considerably, and perhaps we 
> can reuse some of its native libraries.  I’m not too hopeful, because 
> the bulk of it is still written in Scala, obviously, but there are 
> parts that are written in C / C++, which might come in handy.
>
>    https://github.com/scala-native/scala-native

Hi all! My name is Daniel, I'm from Spain, this is my first contribution 
to Guix (well, to a discussion, actually)


I've seen this thread about Scala, and I would like to know more about 
the progress in bootstrapping in Scala. Scala (2) is my main language 
right now, but I want to try other purest options, Lisp being one of 
them, and also want to transition to Guix and contributing packages, 
eventually. I love what you, people, built.


Probably you know about this, but here is a link to an IRC channel about 
this: https://www.bootstrappable.org/projects/jvm-languages.html


It would be nice to have an exact dependency graph so that we can easily 
see the dead ends, and find the the most cost-effective solution. 
Probably translate old Scala code to a similar, already bootstrapped 
language would be a better option than building a compiler for Scala...


Thank you!

Dani.