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Re: Packaging a free Firefox
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Mathieu Othacehe |
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Re: Packaging a free Firefox |
Date: |
Thu, 03 May 2018 12:56:36 +0200 |
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mu4e 1.0; emacs 25.3.1 |
Hi,
I agree with Pjotr and Clément, I do use mainly two programs on GuixSD,
Firefox and Emacs. Packaging a custom Firefox was like the first thing I
did when starting Guix. Even if we put a lot of efforts in Icecat, it it
still lagging behind Firefox. Thus, having an upstream stripped Firefox
seems like a good idea to me.
Mathieu
Pjotr Prins writes:
> On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 11:06:32PM -0700, Chris Marusich wrote:
>> Clément Lassieur <address@hidden> writes:
>>
>> > I find Icecat very buggy, even if I compare it to a home-made Firefox
>> > package that inherits Icecat (and thus is very close to Icecat). For
>> > example I can't even pay with my credit card with icecat-52-guix,
>> > whereas I can with firefox-home-52-guix. (It looks like a javascript
>> > issue.) Also, lots of videos don't work, and it's difficult to know
>> > whether it's because of technical issues or because of DRM.
>>
>> This has not been my experience with IceCat. With two exceptions,
>> IceCat has performed just as well as Firefox for me for everything I
>> have done, including credit card payments. I sometimes watch YouTube
>> videos using IceCat, but I don't view many other videos, so I can't
>> really comment on how well IceCat handles videos. If it requires DRM,
>> of course, it's not going to work in IceCat, which is a good thing.
>>
>> When I use IceCat over TOR, it doesn't always work. When I use IceCat
>> with extensions (plugins? add-ons? I'm not sure what the right
>> terminology is here) like NoScript enabled, it doesn't always work. But
>> when I don't use TOR and I disable those add-ons, everything works just
>> as well as stock Firefox. If you're still having trouble after
>> disabling those things, can you describe the specifics of what you're
>> having trouble with?
>>
>> The exceptions I have experienced with IceCat:
>>
>> 1) A website failed for me because IceCat enables Referer spoofing by
>> default (network.http.referer.spoofSource in about:config). I had to
>> disable that feature to use that website.
>>
>> 2) It used to be that IceCat would crash frequently for me. However,
>> once I changed my gfx.canvas.azure.backends and
>> gfx.content.azure.backends from "cairo" to "skia", this problem stopped
>> for me. I don't know if this is still an issue , since I haven't ever
>> switched it back to "cairo". See here for details:
>>
>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2016-11/msg00008.html
>
> In my experience Icecat usually works. But sometimes it does not and
> it is usually a JavaScript thing. It would be nice to have firefox
> too. I agree with Clément that it is an important option for users and
> it is still a dominant browser. Currently we only can install it as
> binary blobs. Which are often broken in my setup.
>
> Pj.
- Re: next browser (was: Packaging a free Firefox), (continued)
- Re: next browser (was: Packaging a free Firefox), Pierre Neidhardt, 2018/05/10
- Re: next browser (was: Packaging a free Firefox), Andy Patterson, 2018/05/11
- Re: next browser (was: Packaging a free Firefox), Pierre Neidhardt, 2018/05/19
- Re: next browser (was: Packaging a free Firefox), Ricardo Wurmus, 2018/05/24
- Re: next browser (was: Packaging a free Firefox), Pierre Neidhardt, 2018/05/24
- Re: next browser (was: Packaging a free Firefox), Ricardo Wurmus, 2018/05/24
- Re: next browser (was: Packaging a free Firefox), Pierre Neidhardt, 2018/05/24
- Re: next browser (was: Packaging a free Firefox), Ricardo Wurmus, 2018/05/24
Re: Packaging a free Firefox, Chris Marusich, 2018/05/03
- Re: Packaging a free Firefox, Pjotr Prins, 2018/05/03
- Re: Packaging a free Firefox, Mike Gerwitz, 2018/05/03
- Re: Packaging a free Firefox, Pjotr Prins, 2018/05/15
- Re: Packaging a free Firefox, Ludovic Courtès, 2018/05/15
- Re: Packaging a free Firefox, Gábor Boskovits, 2018/05/15
- Re: Packaging a free Firefox, Mark H Weaver, 2018/05/16