guile-devel
[Top][All Lists]
Advanced

[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

Re: Comments on ‘wip-nio’


From: Nala Ginrut
Subject: Re: Comments on ‘wip-nio’
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:40:34 +0800



On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 6:39 AM, Ludovic Courtès <address@hidden> wrote:
Hello,

I had a quick look at ‘wip-nio’, and here are initial comments.

 • epoll is Linux-specific.  Any idea how a more multi-platform API
   could be provided?  I guess libevent could be used, but we don’t
   want to add one more dependency in 2.0.  How much is (ice-9 nio)
   dependent on epoll vs. poll, for instance?


Maybe add a module named "(ice-9 linux)"? And we may add more Linux-specific things.
Also "(ice-9 bsd)" which provides "kqueue" or other interesting things.
If users try to use BSD-specific modules under Linux, we may throw an exception. And functions like
"under-bsd?" or "under-linux?" maybe helpful.
Anyway, libevent for Guile is also a good idea. But I don't think libevent should integrate into Guile. We can write
a standalone guile-libevent. 

 • ‘nio’ doesn’t seem very descriptive to me; ‘nbio’ maybe?

In my server project, I named it "aio" since it's asynchronous.
 

 • I agree that it’s an important problem to address, and I like the
   use of coroutines, and I like that it actually solves the problem
   for some applications like the web server.

   However, I think the approach has shortcomings: (1) it doesn’t
   accept other sources of events (timers, mouse clicks, etc.), and
   (2) it doesn’t allow you to do something while waiting (of course,
   other threads/waiters get scheduled, but the caller is just
   waiting, so you can’t for instance update your progress bar while
   waiting for your bytevector to arrive.)

   Functional reactive programming à la FrTime [0], and synchronous
   reactive programming à la HipHop [1] seem to be much more generic
   and expressive.  It would be great if Guile would come with such a
   framework eventually.  It’s probably more work, though, so it
   probably makes sense to have an alternative mechanism in the
   meantime.

WDYT?

Thanks,
Ludo’.

[0] http://www.cs.brown.edu/~greg/
[1] http://www-sop.inria.fr/members/Gerard.Berry/Papers/plastic2.pdf





reply via email to

[Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread]