[Gnue-dev] Re: Gnue forms on DarwinX

[Neil Tiffin]

Some answers

1. Darwin is the open source underpinnings of OS X.  If you Installed 
using OS X then you are using OS X (and also have Darwin).  This is 
different from only installing the open source Darwin as not 
everything gets put in the open source packages.  My question was 
probably a little confusing now that I read it again.  Since you 
mention 10.2 you are using OS X (with Darwin).  Darwin standalone is 
version 6.0.1.

See http://developer.apple.com/darwin/

Sorry for the confusion.

2. Regarding wxMac, I was never able to get it to work.  That was a 
year ago and it has been improved so your mileage may be better.

If you want to get GNUe working ASAP I would recommend using Fink and 
wxGTK.  I also never got the binary distribution of xFree86 to work. 
Once I switched everything using Fink it all worked.

http://fink.sourceforge.net/

I would also highly recommend reading the news section on fink.  It 
contains really good pointers to current issues.

http://fink.sourceforge.net/news/index.php


Fink is a set of Perl scripts that download and compile source (and 
binary, which i dont use) tarballs.  You will want to configure fink 
to use the unstable tree and make sure you have apple dev tools 
installed. Progress on wxgtk and wxpython is still very rapid and if 
you don't use unstable you will have problems.  I use unstable all of 
the time and have not had any negative side effects.  Of course your 
experience may vary so you should be cautious.

Fink also has a GUI version.  See http://finkcommander.sourceforge.net/

After fink is installed you would enter the following from the 
terminal (I don't use the gui version).

fink install xfree86-rootless
(wait a day while it compiles from source)
fink install wxgtk
fink install python22
fink install postgresql-ssl-python
fink install wxpython-wxgtk

Some notes:  it is important to use fink python and not the python 
that comes with OS X.  It is brain dead (not all libraries are 
installed)

I posted a list of fink packages that I have installed at

http://www.gnuenterprise.org/~neilt/FinkPackages.txt

This also lists all packages available for Mac OS X as of December 4, 
2002 so if you are having a problem someone on IRC may be able to 
direct you to which one to install.

Also, all of these installations will go into /sw by default (except 
xfree86)  and will not interfere with any other installations (you 
probably do not want to change this).  So you will have to monkey 
with GNUe a bit to make sure it finds everything.  The fink structure 
is pretty straight forward  /sw/etc,  /sw/lib, /sw/bin,  /sw/var, 
/sw/share, /sw/src, /sw/include, etc.  So depending on what you are 
missing when you try to run gnue you can find it in a standard place 
if everything is installed using Fink.  (For those reading this with 
Linux background Fink is a front-end to apt-get that converts 
standard Linux tarballs to peculiar Mac OS X needs.)

For each of these installs you might be asked to install other 
dependencies, just say "y".

Also, I use KDE and so I also have it installed.

3. Once you get everything working with xfree86 and wxgtk then I 
would try to wxMac working.

4. You need to make sure that postgresql is working before you 
attempt to work on forms.  You should have it running an be able to 
connect with psql, create tables etc.

5.  Then you need to make sure that you can connect to postgresql 
from within python command line.  I don't have the correct syntax 
with me as I am traveling right now.  But someone on IRC can help.

Hope this gets you started.

I will be out of reach (for the most part) until Saturday.

Neil
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> Thank you for responding to me.  I will try to answer you questions 
> as best as I can.
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 06:20  AM, Neil Tiffin wrote:
>
> > Jesse,
> >
> > I don't have a current version working.  But it has worked in the 
> > past so lets start with a few basics.
> >
> > 1. I have only had it working on OS X not Darwin.  Are you really 
> > using Darwin or are you using OS X.  Also, which version.
> I'm not sure of the distinction here.  Darwin is the unix flavor 
> underlying the OSX 10.2 operating system, isn't it?
>
> > 2. How did you install the various dependencies?  I used fink 
> > except for a couple of packages that were not available in fink.
> I compiled wxWindows (wxMac...not GTK) and I used the binary distro 
> of wxPython.  I have compiled Fink, but I still do not really 
> understand Fink.
>
> > 3. What database did you use?  I hope it was postgresql.
> Yes, I have postgresql installed.  But at this point I can't even 
> interact with a non-database driven form, like intro.gfd.
>
> > 4. Can you read and write to the database using python?
> I have not tried reading or writing to Postgresql yet through Python.
> > 5. What version of python are you using?
> Version 2.2
> > 6. Are you using CVS or tarball version of GNUe?
>
> Tarball
> > Lets see where that takes us.
>
> Thank you for your help.
> Jesse
>
> > Neil
> > address@hidden
> >
> > > Hello...I understand from the IRC that you have GNUe-Forms working 
> > > under Darwin.
> > >
> > > Can you help me to get it working?  I cannot interact with forms.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jesse