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[Fsfe-uk] Re: Fsfe-uk Digest, Vol 23, Issue 4


From: david cozens
Subject: [Fsfe-uk] Re: Fsfe-uk Digest, Vol 23, Issue 4
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 10:30:47 +0100 (BST)

Hello to all of you at fsfe
I am david cozens a reciever of your regular bulletins
 and an active part of the ESF/ European Creative
forum some time ago I had sent a short note asking for
participation from the free sftware foudation  there
is I believe still time to get a place at conway hall
or one of the other vnues  as well as a proliferation
of Alternative spaces  that will be running
concurrently  we all support and understand your
possition and would love for you to come along and
meet or talk with us we are at the Rampartcentre in
rampart street off of comercial street E1 nearest tube
shadwell ,  please reply soonest and we will move in
your favour please donot be put off by rumour and
counter rumour with regards to  red ken and the
socialist worker party  we fully understand and have
had to contend with this all along please feel free to
contact Mary FEE who,s letter /mailing is attatched or
below

Dear Friends
LETS Co-operate has now become part of a much bigger
venue, called the The Solidarity Village which now has
about seventy workshops!
We are expecting thousands of visitors to come to
London for the ESF.  The paragraph below was written
for Indymedia who are publishing a document covering
all the autonomous spaces.  Other paragraphs on
particular projects within the village  that we sent
for inclusion in the main programme are on a page on
our website called PUBLICITY.  We still have some
spaces to fill: if you have not been able to find
space for your event at the ESF please first study the
booking charts on the website and see if you could
join an existing event - contact the presenter direct
if you are bringing a significant number of people
with you, to make sure the room size is large enough. 
If your topic is new or incompatible with what is
already on offer, send in a new proposal to us and we
will try to find space.   At the end of next week we
will put everything together in a printed listing for
the Solidarity Village: 
http://www.solidarityvillage.org

-------

Solidarity Village: Conway Hall (Red Lion Square) and
LSE Clement House, Aldwych, 13-17th October 2004,
holistic practitioners, vegans, small-holders, green
and pagan activists, anthropologists, home-schoolers,
fair-traders, artists and performers are co-operating
to show that "Another Economy is Possible".  Spaces
include The Land Cafe, Wellbeing Space, Artspace for
Kids of All Ages (Creche), Local Social Forums Area,
and "The Commons" Internet Cafe.  SUSTAIN! includes
story-board presentations, leaflets and stalls.
Programme highlights: Friday: "Filling the Vacuum" (on
affordable housing); "LETS Dance" with Basque Country
street musicians, "Rethinking Social Policy" (new
documentaries by Women Film Makers), and the LSE
Debate: "Iraq, Democracy and Global Civil Society".
Saturday: "Dalinowa" exhibition/forum on the Impact of
Globalisation on Local Cultures, "The Moon Room",
"Pagan Magikal Activism", "Lets Co-operate" Open Space
with "Lets Play LETS", "Tools for Change", "Altruistic
Economics", "Disability Awareness", and open Human
Rights plenary with death row survivors.  Sunday:
Local Neighbourhood Forum, "New Forms of Democracy"
Debate, "Creating the Commons" (Open Source) Question
Time, and screening of rough-cut ESF Video.  Entrance
by donation: (£10 membership +£10/£5 per day). Bureau
de Change sterling/euro/links. See:
www.solidarityvillage.org.





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>    4. LGOL-Net [was: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fsfe-uk]
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:50:05 +0100
> From: Graham Seaman <address@hidden>
> Subject: [Fsfe-uk] european social
> forum/communications rights forum
> To: address@hidden
> Message-ID: <address@hidden>
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> Has anyone been involved with the European Social
> Forum in the end?
> 
> My impression of what has gone on (and it is only an
> impression, because 
> I haven't been involved)
> is that:
> 
> 1. The  ESF itself has been  taken over by an odd
> coalition of the  
> Socialist Workers Party, Socialist
> Action, and people linked to Ken Livingstone.
> 2. These people have no interest in free software
> 3. As a result, any activity by european free
> software organisations 
> will take place outside the formal
> ESF framework - in particular in the parallel
> European Communication 
> Rights forum in Camden
> (see http://esf2004.net/en/tiki-index.php?page=EfCr
> ).
> 
> Does anyone know if this summary is correct? And is
> anyone on this list 
> planning to be involved with
> the communications rights forum?
> 
> Cheers
> Graham
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 21:02:53 +0100
> From: Tom Chance <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: [Fsfe-uk] european social
> forum/communications rights
>       forum
> To: address@hidden
> Message-ID:
> <address@hidden>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Hi Graham,
> 
> On Saturday 02 Oct 2004 19:50, Graham Seaman wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Has anyone been involved with the European Social
> Forum in the end?
> 
> No :( I promised to try a while ago, but haven't had
> the time to do anything 
> of substance.
> 
> 
> > My impression of what has gone on (and it is only
> an impression, because
> > I haven't been involved)
> > is that:
> >
> > 1. The  ESF itself has been  taken over by an odd
> coalition of the
> > Socialist Workers Party, Socialist
> > Action, and people linked to Ken Livingstone.
> > 2. These people have no interest in free software
> > 3. As a result, any activity by european free
> software organisations
> > will take place outside the formal
> > ESF framework - in particular in the parallel
> European Communication
> > Rights forum in Camden
> > (see
> http://esf2004.net/en/tiki-index.php?page=EfCr ).
> >
> > Does anyone know if this summary is correct? And
> is anyone on this list
> > planning to be involved with
> > the communications rights forum?
> 
> >From what I've read, yes, though I still find it
> bizarre that they felt the 
> need to make a splinter forum when the rasion d'etre
> of the ESF is that 
> anyone can come along and add their issue to the
> agenda with a spontaneous 
> seminar. I suppose they wanted a dedicated space for
> some long, decent 
> discussions.
> 
> If anyone does have the time to get involved with
> the EfCr I'd recommend it 
> wholeheartedly. It's crazy that the activist side of
> the Free Software world, 
> and the techie FS-friendly side of the activist
> world don't collaborate, 
> especially when you see all the amazing Free
> Software promotion a lot of 
> activists are doing.
> 
> I'm happy to tag along for a day or possibly two if
> others want to go to the 
> EfCr. But I can't start committing myself to yet
> more zany projects ;-)
> 
> Regards,
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:25:17 +0100
> From: MJ Ray <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: [Fsfe-uk] european social
> forum/communications rights
>       forum
> To: address@hidden
> Message-ID:
> <address@hidden>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii";
> format="flowed"
> 
> On 2004-10-02 19:50:05 +0100 Graham Seaman
> <address@hidden> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Has anyone been involved with the European Social
> Forum in the end?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > Does anyone know if this summary is correct? And
> is anyone on this 
> > list 
> > planning to be involved with the communications
> rights forum?
> 
> I think your summary is wrong, but I will have to
> send a message with 
> more details later because of expo, the trees work
> and so on. I ask 
> for indulgence.
> 
> 
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