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Re: [possible patch] Basic fontspec code for LuaLaTeX and XelaTeX (was "
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Ihor Radchenko |
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Re: [possible patch] Basic fontspec code for LuaLaTeX and XelaTeX (was "LaTeX export: when is it more useful...") |
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Mon, 11 Jul 2022 10:19:51 +0800 |
Juan Manuel Macías <maciaschain@posteo.net> writes:
> Considering some discussions in the parent thread, I think maybe it
> wouldn't hurt to ensure a minimal preamble when the output is compiled
> with LuaLaTeX or XelaTeX, so that some very basic fontspec configuration
> is loaded to be able to read PDFs in non-Latin scripts.
+1
> But before proposing the patch directly, I'd like to discuss its
> structure. I think (IMHO) that a certain balance should be ensured
> between a) users who don't want to mess with fontspec and want something
> more out-of-the-box and b) users who prefer to be in control when
> compiling with LuaTeX and XeTeX.
>
> I think maybe it would be nice to let LaTeX do the work, via a
> conditional from the iftex package (idea taken from pandoc).
>
> The structure of the patch could be this:
>
> 1. There could be a defcustom, something like 'org-latex-use-fontspec'
> (I would vote for nil by default).
Does it mean that unicode text (like це or 这个) will not be exported by default?
> 2. There would be three variables for the default fonts: roman, sans and
> mono. By default, the FreeSerif, FreeSans and FreeMono fonts could be
> set as default value, since they are very ubiquitous and have a very
> good coverage for non-Latin scripts.
+1
But can someone check if Free* fonts are available on Windows and Mac by
default? If not, can we distribute these fonts with Org?
> 3. A variable (something like 'org-latex-fontspec-default-configuration')
> would return something like this:
>
> (format
> \\usepackage{iftex}
> \\ifpdftex
> \\relax
> \\else
> \\usepackage{fontspec}
> \\usepackage{unicode-math}
> \\defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase}
> \\defaultfontfeatures[\\rmfamily]{Ligatures=TeX}
> \\setmainfont{%s}
> \\setsansfont{%s}
> \\setmonofont{%s}
> \\fi
> org-latex-fontspec-mainfont
> org-latex-fontspec-sansfont
> org-latex-fontspec-monofont)
>
> (and this string would be added at some point to org-latex-make-preamble)
Makes sense. Though I'd rather use format-spec instead to allow
arbitrary order of variable formatting.
> 4. Conclusion: I think the good thing about letting LaTeX do the
> conditional work with iftex is that it saves us less invasive code on
> our end. I also think that other more complex approaches, such as
> searching for the fonts present in the system and adding them according
> to the document scripts, would lead us to a completely slippery slope.
> Of course, a list of recommended free-licensed fonts could be included
> in the documentation.
>
> WDYT?
This unified preamble approach is consistent with what we do now.
However, our currently used large preambles will slow down compilation.
As I recall, Timothy has been working on simplifying preamble
generation. If we do not put unnecessary packages into preamble,
compilation will be significantly faster.
If Timothy can come up with a patch some time soon, I'd prefer to have a
more targeted preamble. Otherwise, the proposed approach is the way to
go.
Best,
Ihor
- Re: M-x org-create-worg-article command? (was: LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX?), (continued)
- Re: M-x org-create-worg-article command? (was: LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX?), Ihor Radchenko, 2022/07/11
- Re: LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX?, Juan Manuel Macías, 2022/07/10
- Re: LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX?, Juan Manuel Macías, 2022/07/09
- Re: LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX?, Max Nikulin, 2022/07/09
- Re: LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX?, Juan Manuel Macías, 2022/07/09
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- Re: LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX?, Juan Manuel Macías, 2022/07/09
- [possible patch] Basic fontspec code for LuaLaTeX and XelaTeX (was "LaTeX export: when is it more useful..."), Juan Manuel Macías, 2022/07/10
- Re: [possible patch] Basic fontspec code for LuaLaTeX and XelaTeX (was "LaTeX export: when is it more useful..."), Juan Manuel Macías, 2022/07/10
- Re: [possible patch] Basic fontspec code for LuaLaTeX and XelaTeX (was "LaTeX export: when is it more useful..."), Tim Cross, 2022/07/10
- Re: [possible patch] Basic fontspec code for LuaLaTeX and XelaTeX (was "LaTeX export: when is it more useful..."), Juan Manuel Macías, 2022/07/11
- Re: [possible patch] Basic fontspec code for LuaLaTeX and XelaTeX (was "LaTeX export: when is it more useful..."),
Ihor Radchenko <=
- Re: [possible patch] Basic fontspec code for LuaLaTeX and XelaTeX (was "LaTeX export: when is it more useful..."), Stefan Nobis, 2022/07/11
- Re: [possible patch] Basic fontspec code for LuaLaTeX and XelaTeX (was "LaTeX export: when is it more useful..."), Timothy, 2022/07/11
- Re: [possible patch] Basic fontspec code for LuaLaTeX and XelaTeX (was "LaTeX export: when is it more useful..."), Juan Manuel Macías, 2022/07/11
- Re: fontsets (was: [possible patch] Basic fontspec code for LuaLaTeX and XelaTeX (was "LaTeX export: when is it more useful...")), Timothy, 2022/07/11
- Re: fontsets, Juan Manuel Macías, 2022/07/11
- Re: fontsets, Stefan Nobis, 2022/07/12
- Re: fontsets, Juan Manuel Macías, 2022/07/12
- Fallback fonts in LuaTeX via 'luaotfload.add_fallback' (was "Fontsets"), Juan Manuel Macías, 2022/07/12
- Re: Fallback fonts in LuaTeX via 'luaotfload.add_fallback' (was "Fontsets"), Max Nikulin, 2022/07/15
- Re: [possible patch] Basic fontspec code for LuaLaTeX and XelaTeX (was "LaTeX export: when is it more useful..."), Greg Minshall, 2022/07/10