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Re: [RFC] Creole-style / Support for **emphasis**__within__**a word**
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Max Nikulin |
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Re: [RFC] Creole-style / Support for **emphasis**__within__**a word** |
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Tue, 25 Jan 2022 23:27:50 +0700 |
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On 24/01/2022 19:32, Vincent Belaïche wrote:
Thank-you both for the reply, I should have mentioned that I am aware of
this trick but it works only for document encodings which have the
zero-width space, like UTF-8, I was after a fix for documents in
ISO-8859-15, aka latin-9.
I have a hope that 8bit charsets will disappear soon. UTF-8 alleviates
issues with incompatible charsets used for the same alphabet.
You can use a trick with custom links, it has some limitation, but it is
charset-neutral. See below for details.
[[sep:][~--some-cli-option=~]][[sep:][/some cli argument/]]
Vincent Belaïche writes:
Sorry to dig out this almost 8 year old discussion, but after looking
into the git HEAD Org Mode manual (v9.5 or so) (info "(org) Emphasis and
Monospace") node, and after looking into the mail archive I could not
find any answer to this question: how to switch style within a word.
I would like to put something like this in an OrgMode document:
~--some-cli-option=~/some cli argument/
You are a bit late. It was thoroughly discussed a month ago:
Denis Maier. Org-syntax: Intra-word markup.
Thu, 2 Dec 2021 11:50:32 +0100.
https://list.orgmode.org/4897bc60-b74f-ccfd-e13e-9b89a1194fdf@mailbox.org/
Eric S Fraga. On zero width spaces and Org syntax.
Mon, 06 Dec 2021 11:40:57 +0000.
https://list.orgmode.org/87r1aqj706.fsf@ucl.ac.uk
A very strong +1 on this. Org has enough /escape mechanisms/, as you
call them, to cater for special cases, and these include @@...@@, babel,
and filters, amongst others. The simplicity of org is a major
advantage.
Actually I had expectation that export snippets or macros may help in
such case. I can not say that results the following observations are
intuitive for me.
---- >8 ----
#+macro: first $1
- Custom link
#+begin_src elisp :results none :exports both
(org-link-set-parameters
"sep"
:export (lambda (path desc backend)
(if (org-export-derived-backend-p backend 'org)
(org-link-make-string (concat "sep:" path) desc)
(or desc ""))))
#+end_src
+ Requires evaluation of elisp code.
+ May be defined to remain on its place after export to Org.
+ May be defined to completely disappear during export
to other formats
+ Does not allow to put a link inside or to be put inside a link.
+ Does not deactivate markup when put inside:
*[[sep:]]bold* /italic[[sep:]]/.
+ May be placed immediately after markup /inter/[[sep:]]word.
+ Deactivates following marker inter[[sep:]]/word/.
+ Markup may be placed inside description
+ [[sep:][~--some-cli-option=~]][[sep:][/some cli argument/]]
- Zero width space
+ Invisible, so not really plain text markup.
+ It persists in export result, so a filter is required.
+ =C-x 8 RET 200B RET=
+ ~--some-cli-option=~/some cli argument/
- Export snippet
+ For some reason =ox-org= does not define
~export-snippet~ transcoder,
so they will be pruned during export to org.
+ May be used to deactivate markup:
@@s:x@@*not bold* /not italic/@@s:x@@
(must be put outside).
+ Does not deactivate markup when it is inside:
*@@s:x@@bold* /italic@@s:x@@/.
+ Does not help when it is necessary to activate markup
without a space inter@@s:x@@/word/ /inter/@@s:x@@word.
- Macro is useless (besides deactivation of markup when combined
with export snippets in definition)
+ Beware of commas:
{{{first("missed" after comma disappears, missed)}}}.
+ Not survived after export to Org.
+ Can not be used to activate markup in any form:
not{{{first(*bold*)}}}, {{{first(*not*)}}}bold,
not{{{first()}}}*bold*, {{{first(not)}}}{{{first(*bold*)}}}.
+ Can not be used (without e.g. export snippets) to deactivate markup.
Still {{{first(/)}}}italic{{{first(/)}}} and broken second macro.
- RE: [O] [RFC] Creole-style / Support for **emphasis**__within__**a word**, Vincent Belaïche, 2022/01/24
- Re: [RFC] Creole-style / Support for **emphasis**__within__**a word**, Nicolas Goaziou, 2022/01/24
- Re: [O] [RFC] Creole-style / Support for **emphasis**__within__**a word**, Juan Manuel Macías, 2022/01/24
- RE: [O] [RFC] Creole-style / Support for **emphasis**__within__**a word**, Vincent Belaïche, 2022/01/24
- Re: [RFC] Creole-style / Support for **emphasis**__within__**a word**, Nicolas Goaziou, 2022/01/25
- RE: [RFC] Creole-style / Support for **emphasis**__within__**a word**, Vincent Belaïche, 2022/01/25
- Re: [RFC] Creole-style / Support for **emphasis**__within__**a word**, Juan Manuel Macías, 2022/01/25
- Re: [RFC] Creole-style / Support for **emphasis**__within__**a word**, Nicolas Goaziou, 2022/01/25
- RE: [RFC] Creole-style / Support for **emphasis**__within__**a word**, Vincent Belaïche, 2022/01/25
- Re: [RFC] Creole-style / Support for **emphasis**__within__**a word**,
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