Re: Changed list indentation behavior: how to revert?

[Gustavo Barros]

Hi Jean,

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 at 09:09, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:

> That is useful.

I'm glad to hear that.

> > You (plural) could probably also get some juice from looking into, 
> > and
> > incorporating to muscle memory, `M-RET', `C-RET' and `C-j'.
>
> I do, thank you for reminder. Us in plural are sometimes teachers or
> mentors who educate other people who are supposed to edit Org files in
> most simple manner, and those people will never be able to write to
> this list to find out which option where, not even to know about
> indentation things. When default is introduced then all people
> following an educator has to turn off default. They will not even know
> why. One default introduced can cause butterfly effect.

Also a fellow teacher here.  As you, I'm trying to transmit this 
information to you and others, because I find it useful.  Nobody needs 
to use `M-RET', `C-RET' and `C-j'.

> General design of user interface should not conquer their habits
> unless substantial amount of users have demanded it so.

And how exactly would maintainers know that?  Do you claim to be 
speaking on their (substantial amount of users) behalf?

> For me is now better to simple adjust: org-indent-region variable just
> as you said.

Please, don't confuse.  I said you should *not* use (the command) 
`org-indent-region' if you were systematically manually overriding 
indentation defaults.  I recommended to set the user option 
`org-adapt-indentation' to nil, which seems to be the desired value for 
most of the manifestations on this thread.

Best regards,
Gustavo.