Re: [O] new link parameters and link abbreviations

[Martin Carlé]

Thank you for this confirmation of the abbreviation issue. 

> I would suggest just defining short links ;)

Well, there are limits to this approach e.g. file+mnl {mnl = myNewLink}.
Furthermore, link definitions then tend to become pretty cryptic :-(.

Optimally, the 'org-link-abbrev-alist' could (optionally) even been made
buffer-local, in order to safe typing efforts in different work context.

I wouldn't mind changing the abbreviation syntax, if necessary.

> It seems like you can probably build the abbreviation functionality into the 
> follow function
> right?

Don't really get what you mean by this.


On 2016-08-23 Tue 01:03, John Kitchin wrote:

> I can confirm this happens. I think it happens because the abbreviation
> is not listed in org-plain-link-re, so when the bracket link is
> activated, no type is ever defined (it is done by a group in the
> org-plain-link-re). The type is somewhat fundamental to the activation
> function, as it is used to look up all the link properties, and hence
> you get the default help (and all other properties too).
>
> I haven't thought of a simple fix though. It would involve adding the
> abbreviations to the known link types, and some kind of lookup for when
> the type in a link is not in org-link-parameters that resolves the type
> to something in org-link-parameters. Since the abbreviations seem to
> have quite flexible format, it isn't obvious how to do that robustly,
> without changing the abbreviation syntax. 
>
> I would suggest just defining short links ;) It seems like you can
> probably build the abbreviation functionality into the follow function
> right?
>
>
> mc writes:
>
>> Yes, with pleasure:
>>
>> Let's put it the most simple way:
>>
>>
>> 1. Here is my new-link definition:
>>
>> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>>   (org-link-set-parameters "new-link" :help-echo "show new-link's help echo")
>> #+end_src
>>
>> (it doesn't change matter, if there would be :follow or :store function etc.)
>>
>>
>> 2. the 'tooltip' shows my :help-echo string as expected.
>>
>> [[new-link:awesome]]
>>
>>
>> 3. Then I add the following abbreviation of the above link:
>>
>> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>>   (setq org-link-abbrev-alist '(("nl" . "new-link::%s")))
>> #+end_src
>>
>>
>> 4. the 'tooltip' does not work but shows the default:
>>
>> [[nl:awesome]]
>>
>>
>> Hope that clarifies the issue.
>>
>>
>> Thanks once more for your sustained patience making link handling much
>> easier and more powerful!
>> mc
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:17, John Kitchin <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> 
>>> that isn't a feature I have used too often. Could you post a small example 
>>> that illustrates the problem? Thanks,
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 12:13 AM, mc <address@hidden 
>>> <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>>> The new link parameters are fabulous!
>>> 
>>> Only the parameter ':help-echo' seems not to be respected, if a link is 
>>> used by an abbreviated form as defined by the 'org-link-abbrev-alist'.
>>> 
>>> Would be nice, if this could be fixed.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, thank you for this big step forward,
>>> mc
>>> 


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