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Re: [O] couple questions about simple todo

From: Eric Abrahamsen
Subject: Re: [O] couple questions about simple todo
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 12:45:23 +0800
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> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:27:29AM +0800, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>> My take on what you've shown here is that you've got it a bit backwards.
>> Apologies if you've tried many things and you settled on this on
>> purpose, but it looks like you're trying to organize the Org file to
>> look like the Agenda.
>> It took me a while to get used to this, too. I think you'll find the Org
>> tools work better if you forget about what the file itself looks like,
>> and just look at the Agenda. So your Org file would look like:
>> * All to Do [1/1]
>> ** finished iron the cat <2015-08-11 Tue>
>> And the Agenda will show you everything under its proper date heading.
>> I've got scheduling Org files I hardly ever look at directly: todos go
>> in with capture, and are examined, resolved and archived via the Agenda.
>> It can be freeing, once you let the file itself go!
> I think you may be on to something. I use org every day, but I've been
> using it for longer than I'd like to admit in underpowered and goofy
> ways. I get inspired by power-user setups, go for it, get swamped by
> complexity, throw up my hands.
> I'm trying something new here by going as dead-simple as I can. I can always 
> add stuff as the need arises.
> I need to keep things reeeeeaaaaaallllly easy while still doing things "the 
> org way." I'll try to use an active timestamp and just try to remain calm.
> Oh, and while all the property drawers and options lines and everything are 
> really cool and useful, all the junk that can fill up a buffer can sure get 
> ugly and distracting.
> So I can avoid looking at all that?

Sure, in principle you don't need that stuff at all! It depends on what
you're using Org for, but if you're really trying to start simple and
build up, then ignore properties etc for now.

Starting off simple probably means just dumping all your TODOs under one
heading. Use timestamps for events (going to the doctor), SCHEDULED for
tasks you plan to do at a certain time ("iron the cat" above should
probably have been a schedule, not a timestamp), and DEADLINE for tasks
that need to be done by a certain time.

An event should have a timestamp, but not a SCHEDULED or DEADLINE. A
task should have one or both of SCHEDULED and DEADLINE (having both
would mean "this has to be done by tomorrow morning, and I'm working on
it this afternoon").

Use two todo keywords: TODO and DONE.

Then just stay in the Agenda. Use "t" to change todo status, and ">",
"C-c C-s" and "C-c C-d" to manipulate the times. Nearly everything you
want to do can be done using Agenda commands -- read that section of the
manual a couple of times, and don't go to the file unless you have to.

Stick with that until you really start to feel the need for more
complexity. That might be more todo keywords, or maybe tag filtering. Or
customizing how things are shown in the Agenda. My guess is you'll be
able to go pretty far with just the above setup.

Good luck,

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