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Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating
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Carsten Dominik |
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Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package? |
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Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:38:51 +0200 |
On Sep 16, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Carsten Dominik <address@hidden> wrote:
> Hi Rasmus,
>
> On Sep 16, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rasmus <address@hidden> wrote:
>
>> Carsten Dominik <address@hidden> writes:
>>
>>> OK, let me ask like this:
>>>
>>> Does anyone know about conflicts arising from loading wrapfig and rotating?
>>
>> Their manuals doesn't mention anything, it seems. The internet
>> suggests that there might be between memoir and wrapfig, but I didn't
>> look into it as I don't know much about memoir.
>
> thanks for this.
>
>>
>>
>>> OK, so my proposal is
>>
>> Note: I should be obvious that I prefer to load as little stuff be
>> default as possible. That is: I'm biased, but it's OK when everyone
>> knows.
>
> Yes. Of course the cleanest solution would be to load as little
> as possible. But convenience and backward compatibility are
> also a concern which I would like to consider.
>
>>
>>> - to add the rotating package
>>> - do document that the tabu package is needed when specifying tabu
>>
>> Note the package loading order might matter.
>
> Yes, I am aware of this. Can you be specific for this case? I guess
> rotating has no load sequence issues.
>
> Does tabu have such issues? With which packages (what you know)
>
>>
>>> - do document that amsmath in needed when generating a matrix
>>
>> and subscripts. And sometimes math (e.g. align).
>
> amsmath is not in the defualt list, patch by you IIRC. So we actually
is *now* in the default list. Sorry for the typo.
> do not have to say something about this in the manual.
>
>>
>>> The reasoning:
>>
>>> - wrapfig and longtable have been in there for a long time, we want to
>>> avoid breaking existing files whenever possible
>>
>> Assuming a mechanism exists that can detect when tabu is to be loaded
>> why only apply it there and not to the other optional packages?
>
> Because any automatic mechanism may cause problems with load sequence,
> so packages that are problematic in this way should require user attention.
> Hmm, have I just argued agains longtbl by saying this?
>
> Thank you for your competent input.
>
> - Carsten
>
>>
>>> - rotating is needed for sideways stuff and does not do any harm
>>
>> Alternative implementation exists, but they are of course not
>> supported by Org. Would they be in conflict? I doubt it.
>>
>>> - somewhat arbitrarily I am drawing the line above the tabu package.
>>
>> It does seem a bit arbitrary.
>>
>> Bu people who feel strongly about not loading some stuff can change
>> default package alist so it's not a big issue.
>>
>> –Rasmus
>>
>> --
>> A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it
>>
>>
>
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- Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?, (continued)
- Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?, Carsten Dominik, 2013/09/12
- Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?, Detlef Steuer, 2013/09/13
- Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?, Carsten Dominik, 2013/09/15
- Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?, Nicolas Girard, 2013/09/15
- Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?, Carsten Dominik, 2013/09/16
- Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?, Rasmus, 2013/09/16
- Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?, Rainer M Krug, 2013/09/16
- Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?, Carsten Dominik, 2013/09/16
- Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?,
Carsten Dominik <=
- Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?, Rasmus, 2013/09/16
- Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?, Andreas Leha, 2013/09/16
- Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?, Eric Abrahamsen, 2013/09/16
- Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?, Carsten Dominik, 2013/09/17
- Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?, Rasmus, 2013/09/17
- Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?, Carsten Dominik, 2013/09/18
- Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?, Rasmus, 2013/09/18
- Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?, Carsten Dominik, 2013/09/18
- Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?, Rasmus, 2013/09/19
- Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?, Carsten Dominik, 2013/09/19