Re: [Orgmode] Re: Minor gotcha with org-agenda-files

[Carsten Dominik]

On Jan 23, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote:

> suvayu ali <address@hidden> writes:
>
> > Hi Tommy and Eric,
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Eric S Fraga <address@hidden>  
> > wrote:
> > > Tommy Kelly <address@hidden> writes:
> > >
> > > > suvayu ali <address@hidden> writes:
> > > >
> > > > > This is nothing org specific. Its how customise works. This is the
> > > > > reason people are encouraged to _not_ mix customise with setq. I  
> > > > > for
> > > > > example use customise for everything except org settings.
> > > >
> > > > Ah but hang on.
> > > >
> > > > First, is it reasonable to consider it obvious (I mean, it wasn't  
> > > > to me)
> > > > that using C-c [ invokes customize?
> > > >
> > > > Second, even if it is reasonable, isn't it the case that customize
> > > > offers a temporary change of variables? You have to explicitly  
> > > > ask it to
> > > > make the change permanent, no?
> > >
> > > It would indeed be friendlier if this were done here as well.
> >
> > I am not familiar with how to interface ui with customize so I don't
> > know whether its possible or not, but there are many instances in
> > emacs where this is done as standard practice. For example marking
> > certain file local variables as safe, or turning on some special
> > behaviour when invoked for the first time (e.g. side scrolling).
> > However I do recall all of these prompts the user whether they want  
> > to
> > keep the settings temporary or make it permanent. So I would say  
> > its a
> > Request for Feature Enhancement / Bug rather than a mere  
> > documentation
> > bug.
>
> Yes, I think this is the key aspect: all other instances of commands  
> in
> Emacs modifying the .emacs file, that I am aware of, indicate they are
> about to do so although sometimes in a roundabout kind of way
> (e.g. "make this change permanent").
>
> So, can we have a feature request for this?  A simple y-or-n-p type
> prompt would suffice.


I can follow the arguments here.  However:

The problem I see is that if you do this command a few
times and reply "n", but then, during the same session,
you add another file and say "y", then also the previous,
supposedly "non-permanent" changes will become permanent
because they are in that same variable org-agenda-files.
To cleanly implement adding files only for a session and to
independently add a file to the permanent set would require
more complex changes to the agenda file list stuff.

What I usually do it I want to work temporarily with a
file is restricting to that file with `C-c C-x <'.  Then I
work only with that file, which is usually good enough
until I switch back to my more permanent list.

If we add a query, but I would like to be able to turn
that query off.

- Carsten

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