Re: [Orgmode] bug? org does not seem to sort by prioritiy #A, #B, #C, #D

[Rainer Stengele]

Am 21.10.2010 09:39, schrieb Carsten Dominik:
>
> On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote:
>
>> Am 21.10.2010 09:21, schrieb Carsten Dominik:
>>>
>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 21.10.2010 09:07, schrieb Carsten Dominik:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> maybe this is a bug: (Org-mode version 7.01trans 
>>>>>> (release_7.01h.605.gc540)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having set
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>> Org Enable Priority Commands: Hide Value Toggle  on (non-nil)
>>>>>> State: STANDARD.
>>>>>> Non-nil means priority commands are active. Hide Rest
>>>>>> When nil, these commands will be disabled, so that you never accidentally
>>>>>> set a priority.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Org Highest Priority: Hide Value A
>>>>>> State: STANDARD.
>>>>>> The highest priority of TODO items.  A character like ?A, ?B etc. More
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Org Lowest Priority: Hide Value D
>>>>>> State: SAVED and set.
>>>>>> The lowest priority of TODO items.  A character like ?A, ?B etc. More
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Org Default Priority: Hide Value D
>>>>>> State: SAVED and set.
>>>>>> The default priority of TODO items. More
>>>>>>
>>>>>> resulting correctly in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (custom-set-variables
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> '(org-highest-priority 65)
>>>>>> '(org-default-priority 68)
>>>>>> '(org-lowest-priority 68)
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the custom agenda command
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   ("Tp" "all todos sorted by prio"
>>>>>>    (
>>>>>>     (alltodo "all todos" ))
>>>>>>    ((org-agenda-sorting-strategy '(priority-down))))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> will sort correctly by priorities #A, #B, #C, descending,
>>>>>> but will then mix up the rest of the todos with "#D" or without priority.
>>>>>> "#D" does not seem to be included in the sorting.
>>>>>
>>>>> The meaning of the default priority is that tasks without a priority do 
>>>>> have
>>>>> the default priority.  If you need 4 priorities all higher than "normal 
>>>>> tasks",
>>>>> make E your lowest and default priority
>>>>>
>>>>> - Carsten
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, works now. A bit counterintuitive, isn't it?
>>>
>>> What would be the "intuitive" meaning of default priority then?
>>>
>>> - Carsten
>> Well, I would have expected that if I define a priority #D as lowest 
>> priority it is not excluded from sorting.
>
>
> It *is* included in the sorting. All #D's come after the #A's, #B's, and 
> #C's.  Only that "all #D's" includes all entries that have no specified 
> priority.  Within each main priority, the precise order of the entries is 
> determined by other
> factors well, like if it is a deadline or an overdue scheduled item.....  
> That make the D's look random and the other not - but the same is going on 
> everywhere.
>
> You can look at the computed priority (which is used for sorting) by pressing 
> (I think) "P" on every item.
>
> Would you like to make a proposal for a paragraph in the manual to clarify 
> this?  Or are you proposing to change how this works?
>
>
>
> - Carsten
>
My guessing is that a naive user (like me ...) does expect any defined priority 
(like #D in this case) to have a higher priority than a "non" priority item.
If more users see it this way I would propose a change, if not I would suggest 
a short hint in the manual.

- Rainer