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[Orgmode] Re: org-mode tutorial questionaire


From: Richard Riley
Subject: [Orgmode] Re: org-mode tutorial questionaire
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:47:45 +0100
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Matt Lundin <address@hidden> writes:

> Hi Alex,
>
> Alexander Poslavsky <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> There is a new tutorial on worg: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/
>> org4beginners.php. The idea is to write a tutorial for somebody who is
>> new to org-mode.
> ...
>> For everybody:
>> -What kind of tutorial would be the most useful? 
>> -What in your experience people find confusing?
>
> Thanks for taking the time to put this on Worg. I wish I had had such a
> concise summary of the various flavors of emacs on different platforms
> when I started exploring org-mode.
>
> I was wondering if you could elaborate on the following. Are you
> suggesting that new users should never use M-x customize?

As a general comment on this : I used to hand code all my
customisations. And ran into terrible problems somewhere along the
line. Now anything that has a customise interface, I use that interface
and have had no such problems anymore. The downside of course is that
your customisations are not grouped "logically" with comments -but, for
me anyway, using the customisation interface lends itself to much more
trustworthy code.

>
> ,----
> | The biggest pain, when you just begin with Emacs, is the configuration.
> | There is not really a menu for it (you might later hear there is, but
> | they are lying, that menu is really there to trap innocent people), you
> | need to edit a text-file.
> `----
>
> A few comments:
>
> 1. Some of the "step-by-step" instructions might be a bit easier to
>    follow in list format (rather than paragraphs).
>
> 2. If I were reading the tutorial for the first time, I might conclude
>    that I had to place "#-*- mode: org -*-" at the top of all my org
>    files, even after configuring auto-mode-alist.
>
> 3. Why C-x b 2.org --> M-x org-mode --> C-x C-s as the recommended
>    workflow? Once the configuration file is set up, C-x C-f 2.org will
>    bring one right into org-mode.
>
> Thanks again for all the work you've put into this.
>
> Best,
> Matt
>
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