Re: [Orgmode] org-install.el in Emacs probably should be removed

[Carsten Dominik]

On Feb 15, 2009, at 11:18 PM, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:

> > This is what I have done extensively in the manual, but this has not
> > kept people from doing (require 'org) in .emacs.
> >
> > I have been fighting hard to get people to use (require 'org- 
> > install),
> > so I did not want to punish them when they move to Emacs 23 and want
> > to use the Emacs version.  Admittedly, this is not very likely.
> >
> > Also, I do want to keep the option that org-install will do more than
> > just install autoloads.
> >
> > So while I don't have strong feelings about removing org-install
> > from Emacs again, I cannot really see the point either.
> >
> > - Carsten
>
> The usage of org-install has the pre-requisite of having to compile
> the org.el files. This is no use to people like myself, who want to
> use the same .el files in XEmacs and Emacs due to incompatible .elc
> problems. Its also no use to people who do no have a build system or
> make binary installed e.g. windows users, locked down linux/unix
> systems etc.
>
> How about adding a skeleton org-install.el that gets overwritten by  
> the make?

org-install.el is part of the distribution tar and zip files.
I cannot include it into the git repo because the git people tell
me that it is a bad idea to keep a product file under git
control (Bernt?).

The fact that producing org-install.el triggers some code
compilation (org org.el, to be exact, the others are compiled
because org.el depends on them) is a bug that I do not
understand - any make gurus around here who can sort this out?

If you have a system without make, then you should probably
not rely on the git distribution, but rather on the
snapshots.

- Carsten