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[Orgmode] Re: make error when making org fro git


From: Rainer Stengele
Subject: [Orgmode] Re: make error when making org fro git
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:20:30 +0200
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I just tried to "make" the git version of org-mode inside emacs.
That worked without problems.

All my problems before I ran into because I tried to "make" under windows 
native!

So sorry for the noise. Everything then works as expected - I can use the git 
version!

Rainer



Carsten Dominik schrieb:
On Apr 12, 2008, at 6:14 PM, Rainer Stengele wrote:

yes, that made it work.
I did not choose to use emacs 21 - it is debian 4 default version.

Actually I misused my debain system to try to get a "make" for my
windows xp where I cannot get anything to work natively from git.
Doing a "make autoloads" I try to use the lisp directory under windows.
Hope that will work.
That should work.


With the old org "system" I could simply use the lisp files as given
but with the new structure I have to create the org-install.el file which is not working under windows.
Well, this is not fully correct.

First of all, by the "old" system, I guess you mean the distribution files in the form of zip or tar archives? These will still contain the org-install.el file and in this way this is not changed at all from the old system. The git repo is the bleeding edge development version. For technical reasons I cannot distribute a derived file like org-install.el with this repository. And to fully use the git repo you will indeed need a system that can run a few basic development tools, like make - not asking too much in my opinion.
We have not had a release now for a while because the splitting 
operation is a major undertaking.  Once that is done, I will have more 
regular releases again, and then you can use the release files to stay 
close to the development version.
Furthermore, I do have a plan B for using the git repo, and that is 
simply doing (require 'org) instead of (require org-install).  This is 
not the preferred method because it does load the rather large Org 
system into Emacs each time you start emacs.  The preferred method is to 
use (require 'org-install) for a distribution, and *nothing* when Org is 
distributed with Emacs, because there it is fully autoloaded.
However, there are enough people who have never read the installation 
instructions close enough to know that in a downloaed version (require 
org-install) is the correct method to activate Org.  Also, 
unfortunately, the excellent tutorial by David O'Toole, for many people 
the entry gate into Org, explains to use (require 'org).  Therefore I am 
trying to set things up in a way that also this will work.  If it does 
not, you can report this as a bug and I will fix it.
- Carsten




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