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Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: sweep
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Eshel Yaron |
Subject: |
Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: sweep |
Date: |
Thu, 29 Sep 2022 08:04:49 +0300 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (darwin) |
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> > I am not opposed to building on top of `prolog-mode`, but since
> > `sweep-mode` has access to the actual SWI-Prolog runtime including
> > notably its parser, we can (and do) provide better implementations for
> > many of the features of `prolog-mode`, at the cost of targeting only
> > SWI-Prolog where `prolog-mode` is more implementation agnostic.
>
> That makes sense. But I think there is something I don't undersand.
> Some of what you said hints that SWEEP has other parts that don't run
> in Emacs. Is that true? If so, what do they do?
No, sweep runs strictly inside Emacs, in the same OS process. It loads
the SWI-Prolog system into Emacs, so with sweep Emacs is able to
directly execute Prolog code (through an Elisp interface, see
https://eshelyaron.com/sweep.html#querying-prolog).
> What in the world is "the dynamic module"? What language is it
> written in? What does it do? What relation does it have with SWEEP?
> What relation does it have with Emacs?
It is the same dynamic Emacs module I mentioned in my original message:
"The aim of this package is to provide a fully integrated development
environment for SWI-Prolog in GNU Emacs. It does so by creating a
dynamic Emacs module that contains the SWI-Prolog runtime..."
It's a shared object written in C, also see (info "(Elisp) Dynamic Modules").
> > Yes, as I would currently prefer not to require SWI-Prolog contributors
> > to assign copyrights in order to contribute to this project.
>
> When people want to contribute to Emacs, we don't know or ask whether
> they are SWI-Prolog contributors or not. Indeed, it isn't pertinent.
> We follow our practices.
Yes, but sweep is a development environment for SWI-Prolog, and people
may use it and want to improve it even if they haven't otherwise used
Emacs at all.
> If you want to contribute to SWI-Prolog, you should follow the
> SWI-Prolog practices. If you want to contribute to Emacs, you should
> follow the Emacs practices. That way, everything is clear, and each
> project is autonomous.
I think I agree, but I'm not sure what you're referring to here.
Regards,
Eshel
- Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: sweep, (continued)
- Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: sweep, Richard Stallman, 2022/09/28
- [NonGNU ELPA] New package: sweeprolog, Eshel Yaron, 2022/09/29
- Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: sweeprolog, Philip Kaludercic, 2022/09/29
- Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: sweep, Stefan Monnier, 2022/09/27
- Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: sweep, Eshel Yaron, 2022/09/28
- Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: sweep, Richard Stallman, 2022/09/28
- Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: sweep,
Eshel Yaron <=
- Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: sweep, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/09/29
[NonGNU ELPA] New package: sweep, Eshel Yaron, 2022/09/26
Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: sweep, Richard Stallman, 2022/09/27