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Re: Stepping Back: A Wealth Of Completion systems Re: [ELPA] New package


From: Stefan Kangas
Subject: Re: Stepping Back: A Wealth Of Completion systems Re: [ELPA] New package: vertico
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 06:37:08 -0500

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> > Right away, i.e. even without the user typing anything? that'd produce
>> > a huge list of candidates, which would be impractical to display.
>> This is what e.g. ivy does on M-x, and it works well in practice.
>>
>> I find it much better to display candidates this way, and I think it
>> would be a step forward if Emacs dit this itself OOTB.
>
> For me, it would be a step back.  I never use completion for
> discovery, I always have a pretty good idea what I'm about to type
> when I do.

The fact that this UI paradigm is so ubiquitous suggests that you might
be in the minority here.

>> (It's also a popular choice elsewhere, try for example entering
>> something into the search bar on Google or DuckDuckGo.  The same
>> paradigm you see there is used in a lot of desktop software.)
>
> Those are for selection, not for completion.  I thought we'd already
> established that the two are quite different.  We should not conflate
> them, nor force users use only one of them where both could make
> sense, IMO.

I don't think the distinction matters here.  We are discussing if
candidates should be shown eagerly, and my answer is "yes".



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