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Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs
From: |
Ted Zlatanov |
Subject: |
Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs |
Date: |
Fri, 04 Aug 2017 19:09:36 -0400 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 17:21:56 -0400 Stefan Monnier <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>> IMO, it isn't right to display notifications there from a program that
>>>> runs in the foreground. Too far from user eyes, too.
SM> Agreed. This functionality is for use when Emacs wants to notify the
SM> user about something happening elsewhere than where the user is
SM> currently focused.
>> I respectfully disagree. Notifications don't have an implicit user
>> attention scope. They are posted no matter where the user is focused,
>> typically in a globally shared area of the screen to make them easy to
>> notice and consistent in appearance.
SM> But exactly because it's posted in a area independent from the current
SM> focus, it makes it rather undesirable to use it for something that is
SM> currently in focus.
You're right, I see your point.
Would it be acceptable to use the system notifications now, and start a
bigger effort to provide an Emacs-native, focus-aware notification
system? Or do you think such a system is easy enough that an
intermediate stage is just not needed?
SM> Can you give me examples where this notification area is used by other
SM> programs for something related to the current user's action? In my
SM> experience, in such situations they'll rather use something like
SM> a tooltip, a dialog box, or some message shown within the application's
SM> own window.
I've seen it done for background actions that the user initiated. But
you're right that typically this is inside the application. I was
thinking of more generic notifications that are not bound to the user's
attention scope.
Ted
- Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs, (continued)
- Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs, Stefan Monnier, 2017/08/01
- Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2017/08/03
- Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs, Stefan Monnier, 2017/08/03
- Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs, Ted Zlatanov, 2017/08/03
- Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs, Eli Zaretskii, 2017/08/04
- Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs, Ted Zlatanov, 2017/08/04
- Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs, Eli Zaretskii, 2017/08/04
- Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs, Stefan Monnier, 2017/08/04
- Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs, Ted Zlatanov, 2017/08/04
- Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs, Stefan Monnier, 2017/08/04
- Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs,
Ted Zlatanov <=
- Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs, Michael Albinus, 2017/08/05
- common Emacs notifications and alert.el (John W.) package (was: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs), Ted Zlatanov, 2017/08/06
- Re: common Emacs notifications and alert.el (John W.) package, John Wiegley, 2017/08/06
- Re: common Emacs notifications and alert.el (John W.) package, Ted Zlatanov, 2017/08/11
- Re: common Emacs notifications and alert.el (John W.) package (was: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs), Eli Zaretskii, 2017/08/15
- Re: common Emacs notifications and alert.el (John W.) package, John Wiegley, 2017/08/15
- Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs, Michael Albinus, 2017/08/04
- Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2017/08/03
- Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs, Richard Stallman, 2017/08/04
- Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs, Ted Zlatanov, 2017/08/03