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Re: C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion)


From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
Subject: Re: C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 07:12:58 +0900

On 2011/12/30, at 23:52, Ted Zlatanov wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:34:49 +0900 YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <address@hidden> wrote: 
> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:15:15 -0500, Ted Zlatanov <address@hidden> said:
>>>>> I am not a GNUstep user.  I hardly have the time to test Emacs on
>>>>> GNU/Linux these days!
> 
> YM> So, what was your impression on the GNUstep port when you tried it
> YM> some time ago?
> 
>>> I was not able to set up the basic GNUstep at the time and gave up.
> 
> YM> So, your declaration of preference for the NS port to the Mac port
> YM> with respect to GNUstep was nothing based on your actual experience.
> YM> That's rather surprising to me.
> 
> There is a lot of software in the GNU project I don't use, for lack of
> time or because it doesn't fit my needs.  Does that preclude me from
> supporting it?  I had assumed it was not so.
> 
> YM> When others say the similar thing next time, maybe I should ask their
> YM> experience of the GNUstep port before taking their words seriously.
> 
> I'm pretty sure this is the position of the Emacs maintainers as well.
> But your choice to take my words seriously is, of course, your own.  
> 
> I did not mean to start an argument and my original statement was
> clearly based on the GNU project's goals and not on how much I have used
> GNUstep.  If that wasn't clear enough then, I hope it is now.

When I tried the GNUstep port some time ago, it was quite
unsatisfactory.  I thought it might be only for me and the
problem of the GNUstep version I tried or because of my
configuration.  So I asked your GNUstep version/configuration
because I took it for granted that those who are backing the
GNUstep port at least have experience of its use, otherwise it
looked so irresponsible to me.

I even think that pushing software that is far from usable only
because it is for GNUstep might result in lowering the
image/evaluation of GNUstep itself and do harm for the GNU
project's goal, because those who actually tried the GNUstep port
will feel disappointed.

                                     YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
                                address@hidden




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