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Re: Gtk version getting closer
From: |
Miles Bader |
Subject: |
Re: Gtk version getting closer |
Date: |
13 Nov 2002 13:40:18 +0900 |
Karl Eichwalder <address@hidden> writes:
> > Where the menu item's text is self-explanatory, there usually is no
> > tooltip that pops up. In other words, tooltips for menu items
> > should be defined only where they are really needed.
>
> That's even worth ;) If you want to sell a product consistency is an
> important issue. The ideal goal should be: all or nothing. If
> tooltips appear only now and then, the user might think there is
> something broken.
Tooltips in Gnome (at least on my system!) are often `consistent' to the
point of stupidity: in many cases a tooltip is popped up with _exactly_
the same text as the menu item or for icons, the same text repeated
_twice_ in the tooltip (presumably one line is the `label' and the other
is the `description')! This not only seems odd, it seems broken.
Clearly in many cases it's really the fault of the application or the
user that added an icon or whatever without a good description -- but
that's the real world, such things exist.
Perhaps it would be better to could pop up a tooltip that says
`This tooltip intentionally left blank'...
The way I use tooltips is to pause over something and wait to see if
something pops up; if nothing does, I just think `oh there's no tooltip
for that.' Maybe I'm wierd, but since I gained this habit by using
non-emacs programs (emacs being a relative newcomer to using tooltips), I
think there must be something to it.
[Indeed, it would seem that Gnome's insistence on `consistency' in this
case may actually be damaging, by actually _causing_ people to think that
`everything must have a tooltip']
-Miles
--
`...the Soviet Union was sliding in to an economic collapse so comprehensive
that in the end its factories produced not goods but bads: finished products
less valuable than the raw materials they were made from.' [The Economist]
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, (continued)
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Richard Stallman, 2002/11/09
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Jan D., 2002/11/09
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Karl Eichwalder, 2002/11/09
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Richard Stallman, 2002/11/11
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Karl Eichwalder, 2002/11/11
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Eli Zaretskii, 2002/11/12
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Karl Eichwalder, 2002/11/12
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Eli Zaretskii, 2002/11/12
- Re: Gtk version getting closer,
Miles Bader <=
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Eli Zaretskii, 2002/11/13
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Robert J. Chassell, 2002/11/13
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Kim F. Storm, 2002/11/13
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Robert J. Chassell, 2002/11/13
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Stefan Monnier, 2002/11/13
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Jan D., 2002/11/13
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, David Masterson, 2002/11/13
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Jan D., 2002/11/13
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Stefan Monnier, 2002/11/13
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Jan D., 2002/11/13