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Re: [DotGNU]What .NET is this?
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Daniel E Baumann |
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Re: [DotGNU]What .NET is this? |
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Thu, 1 Nov 2001 22:28:19 -0600 |
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On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 01:08:38PM +1000, Rhys Weatherley wrote:
> Sorry about the delay. I've been at a conference and
> am only now catching up on my e-mail.
>
> Bill Lance wrote:
>
> > So what advantage is gained by the .NET runtime? Are
> > you assuming that the app used (and presumably needed)
> > RPC's to various Verizon data sites in orders to
> > acomplish it's task?
>
> I know absolutely nothing about why they thought .NET
> was better. I just expressed an opinion that they probably
> had it lying around, is all. It isn't uncommon for some
> programmers to think that the tool they have is better
> than the tool they don't have. It was just an opinion.
>
> > > The real test of .NET will be end-user apps on the
> > > ground, not quick-fire solutions to one-off vertical
> > > problems. Anything can be used for one-offs.
> > > That's
> > > always been the case.
> >
> > I'm not sure about that. The whole concept of
> > middleware has always struck me as being far more
> > relevant to internal system development where it's a
> > variant of the ol' problem of making your network
> > work.
>
> Well, I come from a user interface background, so I do
> tend to see things differently. :-) But I agree with your
> view where middleware is concerned.
>
> > There's all kinds of interesting new tricks in this
> > space. Some time in the near future, even b2b uses
> > may evolve. However, I am having terrible trouble
> > envisoning a significant use of this for the internet
> > enduser.
>
> Java promised to deliver applications to the end user
> using applets. That never took off, in part because Sun's
> early implementations ran like a dog, and they persisted
> in plugging them into the browser, where they didn't
> belong. This space may (or may not) get a kick-start
> using .NET.
>
> I certainly hope so, because I am heartily sick of seeing
> company after company twist their applications to fit into
> HTML, which was never designed for application delivery.
> There are pocket calculators with a better UI than the
> average "Web application".
>
> As a user interface guy at heart, I'd like to see a real
> application-to-client platform emerge. But first we
> must ditch the "everything is a Web page" virus that
> has infected the industry. Only then will innovation
> restart. IMNSHO, of course. :-)
All this talk about UIs and midlleware makes me wanna ask if anyone ever
check out GNUe forms client or GEAS GNUe Application server?
http://www.gnuenteprise.org (ok so I am biased since I have contributed
code, so sue me ;) ).
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- Re: [DotGNU]What .NET is this?, Rhys Weatherley, 2001/11/01
- Re: [DotGNU]What .NET is this?,
Daniel E Baumann <=
- Re: [DotGNU]What .NET is this?, Bill Lance, 2001/11/03
- Re: [DotGNU]What .NET is this?, Rhys Weatherley, 2001/11/03
- Re: [DotGNU]What .NET is this?, Bill Lance, 2001/11/03
- Re: [DotGNU]What .NET is this?, Jens Müller, 2001/11/03
- Re: [DotGNU]What .NET is this?, Rhys Weatherley, 2001/11/03
- Re: [DotGNU]What .NET is this?, Jens Müller, 2001/11/03
- [DotGNU]Multi-paradigm programming, Rhys Weatherley, 2001/11/03