Re: [Denemo-devel] Custom Barlines

[Richard Shann]

On Fri, 2017-09-22 at 13:42 +0000, NagyMusic wrote:
> I also wanted to ask, if I may, how to best go around producing a
> violin part in the given score? While I can view the typeset part in
> Denemo Print View (=> Part), the empty measure rests are not
> compressed. I tried using Multi-Measure Rests command found in
> Notes/Rests, but with no success.

Did you find the Help text that comes with that command?

Command: MultiMeasureRests

Information:
Creates a multi-measure rest from the whole measure rests after the
cursor, or inserts the number of rests you specify after the cursor,
making them a multi-measure rest. Multi-measure rests will be typeset as
individual whole measure rests if any other part being typeset has music
during them.

There was a typo in that text which I have now fixed ("if" was "in").
You didn't describe what happened when you used this command - the
command is working as described...

Richard


> I welcome your advice. Thank you!
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 9:08 AM NagyMusic <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
>         I was able to successfully customize and modify the barline
>         behavior. However, once a custom barline is introduced (e.g.,
>         dotted), it is repeated at the beginning of a new system. What
>         would be the best way to avoid that? When regular (default)
>         barline is used, the barline is not repeated at the beginning
>         of a new system. I attached my practice score and Denemo file
>         for your reference.  
>         
>         
>         Thank you for your help!
>         
>         
>         On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:30 AM Richard Shann
>         <address@hidden> wrote:
>         
>                 On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 19:36 +0000, NagyMusic wrote:
>                 > While I was able to successfully create a custom
>                 barline (I gave it a
>                 > name and inserted the Lilypond symbol four times as
>                 prompted), I can't
>                 > seem to find a way to insert this newly created
>                 barline in music
>                 > without using Directives->Insert LilyPond. Any
>                 advice? In other words,
>                 > where can one find the command to insert the newly
>                 created custom
>                 > barline?
>                 
>                 Directives->Menu of Objects to Insert
>                 
>                 this is an empty menu until you have created a custom
>                 barline. More
>                 generally, if you create a Score->LilyPond Definition
>                 then you can
>                 insert it via this command.
>                 
>                 Otherwise as I wrote before:
>                 
>                 
>                      1. Move the cursor onto the Denemo Directive
>                 created in step 4
>                         above (it is marked as a line with a blob on
>                 top)
>                      2. Right click on it and choose "Create button
>                 for clone"
>                      3. Select a palette from the list or create a new
>                 one
>                      4. Type a label for the button
>                      5. The button now appears in the palette you
>                 chose, clicking it
>                         inserts a clone of the Denemo Directive object
>                 that inserts the
>                         LilyPond syntax.
>                 
>                 You can also turn the script that the button runs into
>                 a menu item...
>                 
>                 Via that route you could eventually arrive at a
>                 command with a single
>                 keyboard shortcut that would insert your barline. (If
>                 you were doing all
>                 that you would probably improve the way the barline
>                 displays itself in
>                 the Denemo Display, so that you could recognize it
>                 more easily).
>                 
>                 Richard
>                 
>                 >
>                 >
>                 > Thank you!
>                 >
>                 >
>                 > On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:52 AM Richard Shann
>                 > <address@hidden> wrote:
>                 >
>                 >         On Sun, 2017-09-17 at 00:47 +0000, NagyMusic
>                 wrote:
>                 >         > Hello,
>                 >         >
>                 >         >
>                 >         > As a new user of Denemo with extensive
>                 Lilypond experience,
>                 >         I'm
>                 >         > writing to ask how to create custom
>                 barlines (e.g., dashed,
>                 >         dotted,
>                 >         > etc.) in line with all available Lilypond
>                 options:
>                 >         >
>                 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/bars
>                 >         >
>                 >         >
>                 >         > I tried creating a custom barline tool
>                 found in the Barline
>                 >         tab, but
>                 >         > it didn't seem to work.
>                 >
>                 >         That would be this command I guess:
>                 >         >
>                 >         Command: Custom Barline
>                 >         Create a custom barline.
>                 >         These can be named, or can simply override a
>                 standard LilyPond
>                 >         bar line
>                 >         type.
>                 >         A bar line is defined by four forms, which
>                 describe 1) the
>                 >         appearance
>                 >         normally (during a line),
>                 >         2) appearance when the barline is at the
>                 beginning or
>                 >         3) end of a line , and
>                 >         4) what to show when joining staffs together
>                 as with a Piano
>                 >         Staff.
>                 >         Barline forms are made of characters
>                 including |,:,.,[,],:
>                 >         and others in the LilyPond documentation.
>                 >         Location: Object Menu ▶ Score ▶ Typesetter
>                 >         Internal Name: CustomBarline
>                 >
>                 >
>                 >         I just tried it, taking all the default
>                 responses. It created
>                 >         this
>                 >         syntax (in the LilyPond window)
>                 >
>                 >         \defineBarLine "|-A" #'("|" "|" "|")
>                 >         BarA = \bar "|-A"
>                 >
>                 >         I tried it out by inserting the LilyPond
>                 syntax "\BarA"
>                 >         between two
>                 >         notes (using Directives->Insert LilyPond)
>                 and got this
>                 >
>                 >          f'2 f'4 \BarA   \tuplet 3/2 { f'8 f' f' }
>                 >         >
>                 >         So it seems the help for this command is
>                 inadequate, and in
>                 >         any case it
>                 >         would seem to be a good idea if the command
>                 created a command
>                 >         to insert
>                 >         the newly-created type of barline. I have
>                 submitted a bug
>                 >         report about
>                 >         this.
>                 >
>                 >         Thank you for reporting this bug. If you
>                 need help creating a
>                 >         particular
>                 >         barline please ask.
>                 >
>                 >         Richard
>                 >
>                 >
>                 >
>                 
>