Re: [Denemo-devel] Denemo/Lilypond beaming question

[Richard Shann]

On Thu, 2016-11-17 at 08:43 -0500, Ellen Cooper wrote:
> Thank you, Richard.
> 
> 
> So, I originally was using 2.0.12, but the same thing occurred when I
> moved to 2.0.13.  I also tried uninstall/reinstall, and rebooted
> computer.  Yes, I can reproduce the issue.  I've attached a small
> example that I just made.  One breve that is supposed to be d', and a
> longa that is supposed to be e'.

When I opened this with the current 2.0.13 version it displayed as
attached - the breve is a d' and the longa an e'
As you can see the Object Inspector agrees that the cursor is on a breve
d'
Is this what you see when you open this file?


> 
> Oddly, when I tried this

do you mean "opened this file" or ...

Richard

>  on a different computer last night, the denemo display visually moved
> the note down a fifth.  This morning, on a different computer, it
> moved it down a third.  
> 
> 
> Ellen 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Richard Shann
> <address@hidden> wrote:
>         On Wed, 2016-11-16 at 20:44 -0500, Ellen Cooper wrote:
>         > Hi Richard,
>         >
>         >
>         > So I've been testing out the early music notation
>         capabilities of
>         > Lilypond/Denemo, and I'm still really green.  However, when
>         I try to
>         > change note duration from, say, whole note to breve, it
>         places the
>         > breve a 5th lower on the staff.  The Lilypond code says the
>         note is as
>         > I entered it, and the typeset window does too.  It's just
>         showing up
>         > odd in the main program's display.  Any thoughts?
>         
>         It sounds like the Denemo Display has the wrong idea about the
>         prevailing clef - it thinks the prevailing clef is one which
>         places the
>         note where you see it. That is, it knows the correct note, but
>         has the
>         wrong value for the clef that it is displaying it in. To check
>         if this
>         is the problem could you save & then re-load the piece. On
>         re-loading it
>         Denemo re-calculates which clef is active for each measure and
>         it will
>         then be correct.
>         To try and pin down the bug:
>          I just took that Rebel piece that I did and changed a note
>         from
>         whole-note to breve without anything bad happening in the
>         display, so
>         the question is can you reproduce this bug at will? If so
>         either
>         describe how you can do it step by step, or post a
>         (small/compressed)
>         example.
>         
>         Oh, and make sure you are using an up-to-date version of
>         Denemo, of
>         course!
>         
>         Richard
>         
>         >
>         >
>         > Thanks.
>         >
>         >
>         > Ellen
>         >
>         > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Ellen Cooper
>         <address@hidden> wrote:
>         >         Great--thanks, Richard.  I'm looking forward to the
>         new
>         >         build.
>         >
>         >
>         >         Nice coincidence in timing.  I've been exploring
>         both Denemo
>         >         and Lilypond...trying to learn it/figure a way to
>         build a
>         >         palette somehow. I'm quite interested in this but
>         it's a
>         >         learning curve for sure.  I've coded only in R, and
>         not in
>         >         several years.
>         >
>         >
>         >         The scores look lovely.  Thank you for sharing them!
>         >
>         >
>         >         Ellen
>         >
>         >         On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Richard Shann
>         >         <address@hidden> wrote:
>         >                 On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 20:29 +0100, Richard
>         Shann
>         >                 wrote:
>         >                 > On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 12:27 -0400, Ellen
>         Cooper
>         >                 wrote:
>         >                 > > Thanks for any help!
>         >                 >
>         >                 > You didn't mention clefs and time
>         signatures. I've
>         >                 put together an
>         >                 > example (attached) where I've inserted the
>         LilyPond
>         >                 for these - I've
>         >                 > done all this rather crudely, just to
>         illustrate
>         >                 some possibilities.
>         >                 > Only the time signature one did I resort
>         to some
>         >                 low-level tinkering - I
>         >                 > started with the Numeric time signature
>         command and
>         >                 edited it be a
>         >                 > mensural time signature command.
>         >                 >
>         >                 > If you think something along these lines
>         would be
>         >                 useful we can create a
>         >                 > palette of these things...
>         >
>         >                 I *have* created a palette for mensural
>         notation
>         >                 things - it will be in
>         >                 builds from 12th Oct.
>         >
>         >                 The story behind this is that when you wrote
>         I
>         >                 happened to be
>         >                 transcribing a trio sonata that was printed
>         using
>         >                 movable type,
>         >                 retaining many old petrucci style features.
>         So I
>         >                 thought it would be fun
>         >                 to generate a "early" edition as well as the
>         edition I
>         >                 was planning (one
>         >                 transposed up a minor third for treble
>         recorders).
>         >                 Attached are the two
>         >                 versions - both printed from the same Denemo
>         file.
>         >
>         >                 Richard
>         >
>         >                 >
>         >                 > Richard
>         >                 >
>         >                 >
>         >                 >
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>         > Superfund Research Center Analytical Chemistry Core Manager
>         > Duke University NSOE
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>         > Durham, NC  27708
>         > (919) 613-8716
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> Ellen M. Cooper, Ph.D.
> Superfund Research Center Analytical Chemistry Core Manager
> Duke University NSOE
> 450 Research Drive, LSRC A150b (temporary)
> Durham, NC  27708
> (919) 613-8716
> address@hidden

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