Re: [Denemo-devel] how to put in expressions like rubato

[Richard Shann]

On Tue, 2014-07-08 at 08:30 -0400, Ellen Schwindt wrote:
> Dear Richard,
> 
> 
> These are some questions I've accrued as I've used Denemo to make some
> chamber music scores. If you can answer them, I'll try to put them
> into pretty English in case you want to post them. 
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> -Ellen
> 
> 
> I've noticed a “husky” sound when putting in pitches from my midi
> keyboard whenever Denemo decides on an enharmonic spelling I don't
> want. If Denemo knows that it spelled the note wrong, why doesn't it
> spell it correctly? What command am I missing here?

It's not that it is wrong, just unusual. To be exact, it uses a
different sound (instrument) for diminished and augmented intervals.
This is the best that can be done without running an extensive analysis
of the music entered so far to establish the likely key and hence the
correct spelling (there isn't time for this if you are entering music
reasonably quickly).
You can get rid of that by changing your preference for the pitch
spelling channel & program to channel & program 0 which are used for all
the other intervals. (see Edit->Change Preferences->Audio), You would do
this if you were entering some modern music where it would not help.
With 18th c music you can hear whether an interval is supposed to be
augmented or diminished or whether it is just a regular major, minor or
perfect interval that is being mis-spelt. Again, assuming you are
entering the music quickly enough to be able to make musical sense of it
as you go along.
> 
> 
> Ties
> 
> How do I manipulate the ties in a chord individually? Say I have a
> chord stacked from the bottom of 
> 
> C E G and I want to tie the C, but not the E and G—what do I do?

There are Individual Tie commands under the Ties menu.

> 
> 
> What about multiple voices in one staff? In piano music you often need
> to indicate multiple voices with up or down stems or with layers
> (that's what finale uses). How do you achieve this in Denemo?

You create the voices (Staff->Voices menu) as separate staffs in the
display and assign them to voices 1 ...4 so that their stems, ties,
ornaments etc are correctly placed using the commands in
Directives->Typesetter->Voices, the usual shortcuts are Alt-v 1 for the
first voice, etc.
When you are doing this you will find a whole raft of further commands
you need, e.g. to merge rests, to cope with voices that cross, or switch
staff, to move rests vertically etc.

> 
> 
> If you ever make a general advice sort-of document for new users—NOT
> using A B C D E F or G for commands is good advice! (duh) :)

:)

> 
> 
> Another hint—if you wind up with uneven measures at the end of a piece
> it means that somewhere there is a measure with incorrectly filled
> time. 

There is a Check Score command under the Score menu which should find
those measures for you; it is run when you ask for a print out.
A more spectacular example of this is if you have a score with all
quarter notes and then just change the first one to an eighth note, so
that the first bar has a short duration. The poor typesetter cannot find
anywhere to break the music when it gets to right margin of the page,
since every note duration is crossing a barline. It can't break the
lines between any notes, so everything ends up on one long long line...
Try it out, and chortle at the result.

> 
> Can I control how the time signatures look in print view? I wanted my
> music to say 2 2 time, not cut time, but it prints as cut time. How do
> I change it?

Time signature menu, numeric time signatures, here is where you will
find all those other wonderful things, single digit, hidden, time
signatures with the beaming set up to some special pattern ...

Hah! I just checked, this has gone missing, I've submitted a bug report

https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?42706 

which also tells you how to get the numeric time signature with your
current version.

> 
> 
> Key Signatures:
> 
> I made a score in the key of F sharp major. The key signature shows up
> in input view. But when I ask the program to typeset the music, it
> doesn't print the key signature and instead prints each sharp as an
> accidental. My violinists will mutiny! What do I do to have the key
> signature print? I tried toggling between print and hide under the Key
> menu and that did not change it.  

I think you must have a key signature change in the music somewhere near
the start. But I can't quite imagine how you could have that without it
being obvious. Reasonably modern versions of Denemo actually indicate
key-signature changes in the display which are otherwise invisible (e.g.
changing C-Major to A-minor).
If you send me the .denemo file I will try and help.

Richard



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> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 6:26 AM, Richard Shann
> <address@hidden> wrote:
>         Well, that should get a prize for the most garbled email of
>         the year,
>         however I believe the actual coding is now correct:
>         In the Notes/Rests->Append/Edit Note the enharmonic+/-
>         commands act on a
>         single note regardless of cursor height and act on an
>         individual note in
>         a chord if the cursor is at the correct height. The enharmonic
>         +/- in the
>         chords menu acts on the whole chord. This refinement will be
>         in 1.1.8
>         Richard
>         
>         On Thu, 2014-06-26 at 09:03 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
>         > On Sun, 2014-05-25 at 10:14 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
>         > > On Sun, 2014-05-25 at 09:04 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
>         > > >
>         > > > On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 19:15 -0400, Ellen Schwindt wrote:
>         > > > > and in this most recent work session, I couldn't
>         figure out how to
>         > > > > change the enharmonic spelling of only one note in a
>         chord. Do you
>         > > > > have advice for that?
>         > > > You put the cursor on the note and press + or -
>         (assuming you have
>         > > > kept
>         > > > the usual keyboard assignments for the Sharpen and
>         Flatten
>         > > commands).
>         > >
>         > > Sorry, I probably misunderstood. You are thinking of
>         changing for
>         > > example E-flat to D-sharp?
>         > > I notice there is an enharmonic command change, but it
>         changes all the
>         > > notes in the chord.
>         >
>         > Hmm, actually the command (under the notes/rests menu)
>         applies to single
>         > notes, but you have to position the cursor exactly on the
>         note height,
>         > otherwise it does nothing - I should change this to apply
>         the other
>         > command (under the Chords menu) if there is only one note in
>         the chord.
>         >
>         > Richard
>         >
>         >
>         >
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