Re: [Denemo-devel] music samples

[Richard Shann]

I have used the terms
music sample
riff
snippet
motif

interchangeably. Is there a common name for such a thing? 
Is there a program featuring the more advanced use - where changing the
sample changes all the instances of it througout the score?

Richard


On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 11:27 +0200, Nils Gey wrote:
> Hi Richard,
> 
> this is indeed a very good idea.
> As you might now, working with patterns and reusing parts is one of my 
> longtime goals in Denemo. 
> A multiclip-clipboard is a good thing, especially if its trivial to 
> implement. 
> 
> Working with reference-points, the holy grail as you mentioned appropriately, 
> is indeed one of my biggest wishes :)
> 
> Nils
> 
> 
> On Thu, 27 May 2010 10:05:38 +0100
> Richard Shann <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> > I have had a Good Idea. We can easily store fragments of music (as we do
> > when we push the Denemo Clipboard), and then insert these wherever
> > needed in a composition.
> > For my work I would want to do this when entering the rhythm of a piece
> > - some quite complicated rhythmic patterns (involving grace notes,
> > tuplets, slurs, ties and articulations) are often repeated, and take a
> > fair amount of mental effort to create. By storing them and just
> > recalling them at the points needed I think I will get a faster input.
> > (Astute followers of Denemo will feel they heard this before: correct,
> > the rhythm pattern toolbar allows you to store a rhythm and then follow
> > it as you play in notes; this goes further, as the whole of the music is
> > stored, not just the rhythm).
> > 
> >  I suspect some composers will also find it useful to be able to
> > repeatedly paste motifs into their scores. There is also the possibility
> > (later) of making these stored motifs persist (ie get stored with the
> > music) and by giving them a reference count achieve the holy grail of
> > computer-aided composition: riffs/motifs/samples etc which are created
> > once and re-used by reference, so that changing the riff changes all the
> > occurrences of it in the music.
> > 
> > Here are my notes on how this could be done (it is virtually trivial):
> > 
> > music samples - clipboards stored as/with rhythm patterns
> > When you hit Create Pattern (=> New) it pushes the clipboard then d-Copy
> > and then PopOffClipboard which takes the top most clipboard and attaches
> > it to the rhythm pattern.
> > So the rhythm pattern acts as an icon for the stored snippet of music,
> > and it can be clicked on to paste. These icons will appear on what is
> > currently called the rhythm toolbar, it will need to be re-named music
> > samples; it will still function as a follower for entering notes
> > following its rhythm.
> > So you can paste the music sample (clipboard) anywhere at any stage.
> > Needed: ability to fix this toolbar so that it does not vanish with the
> > Line View (where all menus etc are hidden), since you would need it for
> > entering music.
> > 
> > Also, MIDI default should be to play non-printing notes using percussion
> > channel. A command to remove the pitches from a piece would give a way
> > of preparing music exercises: remove the pitches and the user creates
> > (by playing) a new melody for the given rhythm.
> > Well, that is two Good Ideas:)
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > 
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