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Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?
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Eric Blake |
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Re: ls is broken, what's next cd? |
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Tue, 6 Feb 2018 08:31:11 -0600 |
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On 02/06/2018 03:38 AM, Kamil Dudka wrote:
I do not need to search as I have been following the discussions in real time.
It is always the same. GNU coreutils authors explain why changing the default
was a good idea whereas all other users explain why the change was unexpected
at best and desperately ask for revert.
This is a logical fallacy, you are relying on confirmation bias. The
users that are complaining are quite possibly a disproportionate set of
overall users. The users that are not bothered by the change, or have
not even noticed it, or which even appreciate the changes, are not
complaining. But there is no easy way to determine which percentage of
the population are opposed to the new default, vs. those which are okay
with the new default, because only those opposed to the default are
complaining on the list.
The question is *not* which quoting style is better default. The question is
whether GNU coreutils users appreciate the *change* of the well-known default.
The change has already been made. Even if we now revert it, users still
have to deal with versions in the wild that have the change. So since
users already have to deal with it, they might as well always have to
deal with it. We prefer a default of erring on the side of safety when
it comes to output that is ambiguous or could corrupt a terminal, but
leave enough knobs that you can customize a different default for your
preferred setup.
--
Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc. +1-919-301-3266
Virtualization: qemu.org | libvirt.org
- Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?, (continued)
- Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?, Bernhard Voelker, 2018/02/06
- Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?, Michael, 2018/02/06
- Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?, Eric Blake, 2018/02/06
- Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?, Kaz Kylheku (Coreutils), 2018/02/06
- Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?, Michael, 2018/02/07
- Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?, Jeffrey Walton, 2018/02/07
- Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?, Michael, 2018/02/07
- Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?, Eric Blake, 2018/02/08
- Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?, Bernhard Voelker, 2018/02/07
- Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?, Kamil Dudka, 2018/02/06
- Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?,
Eric Blake <=
- Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?, Kamil Dudka, 2018/02/06
- Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?, Bernhard Voelker, 2018/02/06
- Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?, Harald Dunkel, 2018/02/07
- Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?, Bernhard Voelker, 2018/02/07
- Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?, Harald Dunkel, 2018/02/13
- Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?, Bernhard Voelker, 2018/02/15
- Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?, Harald Dunkel, 2018/02/16
- Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?, Pádraig Brady, 2018/02/17