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From: | Jared Finder |
Subject: | bug#68765: 30.0.50; Adding window-tool-bar package. |
Date: | Sat, 01 Jun 2024 21:17:58 -0700 |
Thank you for all the feedback. Updated patch attached. On 2024-05-26 11:40, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
Date: Sun, 26 May 2024 09:20:56 -0700 From: Jared Finder <jared@finder.org> Cc: juri@linkov.net, 68765@debbugs.gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca >> +@findex global-window-tool-bar-mode >> + The command @code{global-window-tool-bar-mode} toggles the display >> of >> +a tool bar at the top of each window. When enabled, multiple windows >> +can display their own tool bar simultaneously. To conserve space, a >> +window tool bar is only shown if the tool bar for that window's >> current >> +buffer is different from the global (default) tool bar. The most >> common >> +way a buffer has a different tool bar is due to its major mode, so >> you >> +can think of the window tool bar as showing a major mode's tool bar >> if >> +it exists. > > So, let me understand what happens under this global mode. By > default, the frame's tool bar changes according to the major mode of > the buffer shown in the frame's selected window. As a very frequent > example, entering the minibuffer from a buffer whose mode is, say, > Dired or Rmail or Info, changes the tool bar. When that happens, some > windows which previously didn't display their tool bar because it was > identical to the frame's tool bar will now display their tool bars. > Right? And when you exit the minibuffer, those window-specific tool > bars will again disappear, right? Wouldn't that cause annoying > flickering of the display? (I know that setting > tool-bar-always-show-default non-nil can prevent that, but I'm asking > about the default behavior.) No, this is not the behavior. The window tool bar displays thatbuffer's binding of <tool-bar>. The window tool bar is displayed in thetab line of each window and doesn't pay attention to what the current buffer or window is.But this means that the following text:To conserve space, a window tool bar is only shown if the tool bar for that window's current buffer is different from the global (default) tool baris at least inaccurate. Specifically, if the frame's global tool bar changes as result of some command, the identity of the tool bars of windows to that of the frame is not re-examined. So if some window decided that its tool bar is not to be displayed, it will remain undisplayed until that window shows a different buffer or its buffer changes its major mode. Is that correct? If not, why not?
Your understanding here is accurate. I consider this behavior a bug that I'd like to fix (in normal use it rarely happens). I suppose I could use add-variable-watcher to detect all changes to tool-bar-map and update tool bar visibility. I'd like to make sure to do this correctly and not cause a significant performance hit.
Should such a temporary limitation be documented in the manual? I added a section to describe this limitation to my patch, but I don't know if it is appropriate.
Or maybe I don't understand well enough what you mean by "The window tool bar is displayed in the tab line of each window and doesn't pay attention to what the current buffer or window is." You are using here terminology that is confusing: there's no "current window" in Emacs, only the "selected window", and it is unclear whether by "current buffer" you mean the global current buffer (the one returned by the function current-buffer) or the buffer shown in a window (since you also say "the window's current buffer", another term that we do not use).
Thanks for helping me here with terminology here. Looking over the manual, it seems the proper terms are "current buffer", "selected window", and "buffer displayed in a window". I have updated my patch to use these terms.
> Btw, what exactly is the meaning of "the tool bar of the window is > different from the global tool bar"? How are tool bars compared? For > example, a button on the tool bar can have the :visible attribute, > which will cause the icon not to appear under some conditions -- will > a tool bar with that icon on display be considered "different" from a > tool bar where the icon is not shown due to :visible conditions? It's specifically using the following test: (eq tool-bar-map (default-value 'tool-bar-map))So a frame's tool bar can completely change its look due to :visible, and Emacs will still consider it "equal" to the tool bar of some window where those :visible conditions yield a completely different look? Does that make sense?
From a functionality standpoint, I think it makes a lot of sense. It's about if there's a major mode specific tool bar, not just if the list of buttons is different. Major modes with custom tool bars are recommended to set tool-bar-map locally and that's what all customizations in core Emacs do. An eq comparison properly catches this.
I have updated the patch to refer to the tool bar binding being different to try to communicate this.
I'm beginning to think that the feature whereby we don't display the window's tool bar under some conditions "to conserve space" is more confusing and hard to document than is useful, and perhaps we should simply show the window's tool bar unconditionally?
I find it really useful to have this auto-show/hide behavior. As I wrote in the docs, "you can think of the window tool bar as showing a major mode specific tool bar if it exists". The most prominent other source of a custom tool bar is isearch. Having no space taken up when editing a text file, then having the tool bar appear when I hit C-s lines up with what I see in many other programs. I'd be sad to see this behavior removed.
So what I would like us to say in the manual is that the value of window-tool-bar-format
Just to be clear -- there is no new line as you requested a while back. The mode just alters the value of tab-line-format.
and of tab-line-format should produce what is expected from these lines: a row of tabs for tab-line and a row of icons for the tool bar. The reader should understand that having a tab-line-format whose value is "%b %f", for example, makes no sense, although it will work. (In general, most or all %-elements of mode line and header line make no sense in tab-line and tool bar. It is hardly an accident that tab-line-format's value is just (:eval FUNC), in stark contrast to the value of mode-line-format and header-line-format in modes in which it is non-nil.) Did I succeed to explain my concerns?
Yes, I think I understand. I have updated my patch. -- MJF
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