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bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log |
Date: |
Thu, 07 Oct 2021 15:56:30 +0300 |
> Cc: 50344@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 14:12:06 +0300
>
> >> Sorry, I see no connection: why changing key bindings requires
> >> deprecating the command?
> >
> > Because people will expect the old binding to work as long as the
> > command is useful.
>
> They shouldn't: we have a lot of commands without dedicated bindings.
>
> This command will retain some marginal utility, for some users out there
> (though I don't know who or why), so removing it doesn't make sense.
>
> But its utility is incommeasurable with the binding it's taking up.
>
> Let's announce in Emacs 28's NEWS that we intend to remove (or take
> away) the binding 'C-x v b'. Just like we did with the TAB binding in
> *xref* buffers.
>
> >>> It was then, but it can be used today with other backends.
> >>
> >> What backends do you switch with 'C-x v b' today?
> >
> > You mean, I personally? Why is that relevant? If you want to say
> > that no one uses this command anymore, then that points to deprecating
> > the command, and when it's obsolete for long enough time (at least one
> > major release, IMO), we can remove its binding.
>
> "No one" is a very strong criterion.
>
> What if 2 people total, out of all users, were using this command?
That's the same as "no one", for the purposes of this discussion.
> Would you still deprecate it, with intent to remove? Or would you still
> keep the binding?
I didn't say I was against deprecating the command. I said
deprecating it is the only way to eventually usurp its key binding.
But deprecation will take time, and I was under the impression that
Juri wanted the VC branch commands to have the binding NOW.
- bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log, (continued)
- bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log, Filipp Gunbin, 2021/10/07
- bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log, Juri Linkov, 2021/10/07
- bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/10/07
- bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log, Juri Linkov, 2021/10/07
- bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/10/07
- bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log, Dmitry Gutov, 2021/10/07
- bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log,
Eli Zaretskii <=
- bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log, Dmitry Gutov, 2021/10/07
- bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/10/07
- bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log, Dmitry Gutov, 2021/10/07
- bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/10/07
- bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log, Juri Linkov, 2021/10/07
- bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/10/07
- bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log, Dmitry Gutov, 2021/10/07
- bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log, Filipp Gunbin, 2021/10/12
- bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log, Dmitry Gutov, 2021/10/12
- bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log, Filipp Gunbin, 2021/10/13