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Re: [Bug-gne]Allowing "unsavoury" content


From: Tom Chance
Subject: Re: [Bug-gne]Allowing "unsavoury" content
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:47:24 -0800 (PST)

First of all, you are saying that because you disagree
with my statement that it is the greed of the west
that is the major cause of poverty and hunger that
kills the developing world, you would simply stop it
from being in a resource? So you would block the
writings of respected intellectuals like Noam Chomsky,
Bertrand Russel, George Monbiot, to name but a few.
That is utterly ridiculous, and would produce the most
worthless encyclopedia in history. I would prefer to
browse the unorganised WWW than read that resource's
euro-centric view of "knowledge". 

And sorry yes, I got my figures wrong. That was 19
million children die every ear, not every week, that
die directly because of the debt owed to the western
creditor nations. That's a big error I know, but its
not the issue here and I was merely talking about GNE.
Should I have written an article on debt, I would have
researched it properly. As for uneducated ideology,
there is no educated ideology. That implies it has all
its facts right, and looks from exactly the right
angle. That's really, really naive and arrogant to
think you ever have a properly educated ideology,
again a reason for supporting ALL ideologies.

And Jimmy, I am sorry I have offended your rather
quaint ways.

Tom Chance



--- Jimmy Wales <address@hidden> wrote: >
I just can't let one really wrong factual claim
> stand here.
> 
> Tom Chance wrote:
> > Jimmy according to UN figures 19 million children
> die
> > every week from lack of money to help themselves
> from
> > starvation and disease, which comes from their
> debts
> > to the west.
> 
> I have no idea where you got this number; my guess
> is that you
> just made it up.
> 
> If 19 million children died per year, that would be
> nearly 1
> billion per year.  The planet has only 6 billion
> people on it.
> If 1/6th of the population was dying every year,
> we'd be gone
> very soon.
> 
> If you are looking for actual facts, rather than Tom
> Chance's
> fantasies, you should know that the World Health
> Report for 1998 says
> that in 1997, about 140,000 people per day died
> WORLDWIDE and FROM ALL
> CAUSES.  This includes the death of wealthy people
> and poor people,
> and includes all causes including genocide, heart
> attacks, starvation,
> old age, car accidents, etc.  140,000 a day means
> just over 51 million
> per year.
> 
> There is no way that "Western greed" is causing the
> deaths of millions
> of people per week, when only around 1 million
> people per week die
> _period_.
> 
> This is what happens when uneducated ideology takes
> the place of serious
> thinking.
> 
> --Jimbo
> 
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