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Re: [Swftools-common] SWFTools Wiki


From: E-Blokos
Subject: Re: [Swftools-common] SWFTools Wiki
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:49:10 -0700
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I can host the wiki if needed

Cheer


On 9/14/2014 12:47 PM, RDP wrote:
Two of the list stalwarts, Hans and Pablo!  Knew I could
count on you! ;o)

Here you'll find links to the man himself..

     http://www.quiss.org/

     https://www.youtube.com/user/kramm33

     https://twitter.com/matthiaskramm

I have some public contact details for him, possibly not current,
and I won't publish them on this list.  They are for München Hans,
and though I'm Matt's English is way better than my German will
ever be, maybe if I pass the details to you in an off-lister, you'd
care to try and make contact, see what transpires?

There were/are others who got involved with this project.  Others
probably way more familiar with the code base than any of the
three of us are, could be, care to be, or indeed have the time for.
Where are they all?  Where *are* you all?

We three - what on earth am I saying? - could always dive off
at a tangent, try and get things kickstarted, and see any of them,
including Matthias himself deign to show up?  after all, some of
these youngsters can be a tad random..   ;o)

By all means let me have your thoughts, either on or off list.

Cheers both!

Kind regards,



Chris.

On 14 September 2014 18:28, Hans J Nuecke <address@hidden> wrote:
Hi Chris, Pablo,
thank you for pushing this! I fully support your thoughts/suggestions
and plan to help best I can; although my coding skills are very limited ;-)
Regards
Hans

Am 14.09.2014 um 18:00 schrieb Pablo Rodríguez:
Hi Chris,

I think it is essential to contact Matthias as soon as possible. So it
will be clear which is the current project status. It would be great, if
you could contact him.

As far as I can see, the git version from Ricardo seems to be an
outdated version, rather than a forked version from Matthias.

We already spoke about this in the past. We need a central site from
which to manage everything related to swftools.

Although this is a minor issue. The real issue is to find a group of
developers that want to take over swftools. I cannot code.

I see two main features to be implemented in swftools:

- LZMA compression for Flash files.
- Ogg Vorbis decoder (or Opus decoder, once enabled in Flash).

This is besides the bugs that have been reported to this list. I’d be
happy to help with those, but I cannot contribute code.

But having a clear statement from Matthias would help to start moving.

Chris, I’d (and I think all of us would) really appreciate, if you could
contact Matthias to clarify the situation of the project.

Many thanks for your help again,


Pablo



On 09/14/2014 03:51 PM, RDP wrote:
Hi there Pablo,

Still out there I see. How's it all going? ;o)

To be fair I have done very little with the wiki, other than keep it
ticking over!
I agree with you entirely in respect of the dearth of activity. That was in fact
the major reason for my post.  Some confirmation of the current status from
Herr Kramm, would indeed be very useful!  Maybe he, like most of us, has
better and/or more importat things occulying his mind and time?  ( I believe
I had a contact number for him at one stage.. I could maybe go direct!   )

Hosting is no great shakes, at least for now.  I am moving the small amount
of stuff I still maintain ( entirely non-commercial at present )
elsewhere shortly.
When I do so, the wiki, and all it's associated content will/ have to
go as well.
The IP for wiki.swftools.org will change, so Matthoas qill need to make the
appropriate amendment to the dns setings for swftools.org

To the best of my knowledge, there are two git versions of swftools.  The
official one maintained by Matthias himself, from which the wiki version is
regularly cloned and made viewable with ViewGit,

      http://wiki.swftools.org/viewgit

and that ( a flork?) by Ricardo Pedroso,

    https://github.com/rpedroso

However, search for swftools on GitHub, and you'll find more than a few other
variations on a theme to choose from!!

Implementing a bug tracker, the wiki, and a few dozen other things the
project could maybe do with, to give it the necessary lift, is no great
shakes,really.  I'm also happy to continue hosting it, at least for now.
However, maintaining, patching, and updating is another kettle of fish.
To my mind, the project needs more of a community, and some serious
core code maintainers to review and implement any patches, rather than
just the odd one or two people.  I'm simply not that familiar with the code
base myself.  Merely an inveterate and occasional meddler. ;o)

What I'm really after is information and elucidation as to the direction
of this project, that is if it is going anywhere.at all!, along with a show
of hands and ideas from any interested parties, commercial or otherwise.
Commercial usage could also provide micro-donations toward the cost of
the project upkeep, and incentive to those with the knowhow, aka some
core developers, to make any necessary amendments and patches.

I hope that makes things a little clearer? ;o)

Regards,


Chris.

On 14 September 2014 11:53, Pablo Rodríguez <address@hidden> wrote:
Dear Chris,

sorry for the late reply.

Thank you for your work with the wiki.

To your last question, I’d move the wiki to GitHub if it costs you money
right now.

I think there is a more relevant issue here. swftools are unactive for
more than a year.

-Lastest commit in master was from Thu Jul 25 19:49:07 2013 -0700.

-Lastest message from Matthias to the list was from Wed, 14 Aug 2013
16:36:56 -0400,

-In a message to the list from Fri, 2 Aug 2013 16:55:28 -0700, Matthias
states that there is a branch that would replace xpdf with poppler. In
the public git (I have just cloned), there is no other branch than master.

Sorry if I’m missing something. I’m not a fan of GitHub, but I think it
could help here. At least to track bug reports. Having them in a mailing
list is the best way to forget them.

Even if the GitHub repository contains no code, it would be useful to
host the wiki and to have the issues organized at one place.

Just in case it might help, I have just created the swftools
organization there [I can transfer it to anyone who wants to have it, or
I could simply delete it]

What do you think about this, Chris?

I hope this helps to clarify the situation.

Cheers,


Pablo




On 09/13/2014 11:00 AM, RDP wrote:
Dear All,

The SWFToolls Wiki has been hosted ( and partially maintained ),  by
myself for a considerable period.  What seemed like a good idea at the
time, now possibly is no longer.  Changes have to be made, both to
wiki's location, it's general structure and content, and, more to the
point, it's actualy survival as a web
resource.

A few points to note,

- The SWFTools  software suite itself appears to have been put in mothballs, as
   there have been no updates for a considerable time, last was 9th April 2013

- TheSWFTools does not appear to have forged many, if any, links with other
   projects from which all could easily, and mutually benefit

- the wiki itsef has also not been updated/amednded in a considerable
time.  Very
   poor community spiriiedness.it would appear!  It's simply not a one
person job!

-  credit should hereby go to one unsung, and very probably hitherto unnoticed
    wiki user, Cthulhu.fhtagn,

        http://wiki.swftools.org/wiki/User:Cthulhu.fhtagn

    without whose sterling support, very kind assistamce, and time
mis(spent), the
    wiki would have been down ages ago due spam, bot, and other such attacks.

So, to all you out there, commercially biased or otherwise, that make profitable
and personal use of the SWFTools software, and occasioanally this mailing list,

http://wiki.swftools.org/webstats/awstats.pl?config=awstats.wiki.swftools.org.conf

Whare to next, *if* anywhere?  Ditch, dump, or continue to maintain?

Thoughts people.

Thank you.

Regards,



Chris P.
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