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Re: [Help-gnunet] From IRC chat: ng0 asked me to post problems with the


From: Schanzenbach, Martin
Subject: Re: [Help-gnunet] From IRC chat: ng0 asked me to post problems with the git docs.
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:26:36 +0900


> On 8. Oct 2018, at 17:21, Christian Grothoff <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> On 10/07/2018 06:42 PM, Diagon wrote:
>> ---- On Sun, 07 Oct 2018 00:19:00 -0700 Christian Grothoff <address@hidden> 
>> wrote ----
>> 
>>> Hi Diagon,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the constructive feedback. I've been trying to get people to
>>> put installation instructions into
>>> doc/documentation/chapters/installation.texi and -only- there,
>> 
>> Can you give me instructions how to compile this by hand, so I  can read it?
> 
> $ cd doc/documentation
> $ makeinfo --pdf gnunet.texi
> 
> You should get a PDF with ~230 pages called 'gnunet.pdf' afterwards.
> Similar --html, --docbook and --plaintext should also work...
> 
>> Also, you understand that all these requirements/ optional requirements/ 
>> very-very optional requirements are quite confusing, particularly without 
>> documentation.  Where did this guy royneary on github find out?  How is it 
>> they know that many of the "required" packages are actually not required?  
>> That one is replaceable (libgnurl) and that the one that's too old can just 
>> be left out (libmicrohttpd-dev)?   For me at least, as a non-developer, this 
>> is bewildering.
> 
> I suspect they figured that if it compiles without the dependency, the
> dependency clearly is strictly-speaking optional ;-).  Which is true for
> many dependencies, as we try to make it such that then features are
> simply disabled in the build.
> 
>>> I hope this helps a bit where we are and where I hope to go!
>> 
>> It helps a lot!  There is the key issue that didn't get answered, though.  
>> Could you help with that?
>> 
>> There is one required package that is too old in both Ubuntu 16.04 and 
>> Debian Stretch (libmicrohttpd-dev).  How do I deal with that?  There is also 
>> an optional package that is too old in Ubuntu 16.04, 18.04 and maybe Stretch 
>> (libpulse-dev).  How do I handle that? - without damaging my system, that 
>> is.  Also, what does libjansson-dev provide, and what version do we need?  
>> Are there any other unmentioned {,{,very{, very}} optional} dependencies?
> 
> You could install libmicrohttpd from source (by default to /usr/local),
> and pass --with-microhttpd=/usr/local to 'configure'.
> 
> libjansson-dev provides the ability to parse JSON, which is used by the
> GNUnet REST APIs, which is used by ReclaimID, which is not yet
> documented at all in the manual.  I hope Martin will find the time to
> move some of the existing documentation into the manual "soon".

AFAIR there is already a reclaim section (in the users manual). Need to extend 
it an separate it into installation/user.
The REST APIs are documented separately 
(https://gnunet.org/git/gnunet-rest-api.git/) and are not solely for reclaim, 
but can be used to access any subsystem.

> 
>> I would in addition suggest that any release (0.11.0) should be able to work 
>> in the most up to date Debians/Ubuntus, which does not now appear to be the 
>> case.
> 
> Agreed.
> 

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