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From: | J.B. Nicholson-Owens |
Subject: | [gNewSense-users] I concur with the effort to become and remain free. |
Date: | Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:12:58 -0500 |
User-agent: | Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070604) |
Yavor Doganov wrote:
This is the equivalent to the question "I want to be a slave, it is my freedom to choose so". Can you be a slave in the trivial meaning of the word in a modern society? Would it be allowed by the society to be whipped and treated like a slave even if it's your choice? I think that such a social status is prohibited because it's anti-human and antisocial.
I recall an apropos interview on "Questions Please" with Jonathan Roberts in which Richard Stallman discussed the paradox of the freedom to become enslaved (see http://www.digitalcitizen.info/2006/11/30/questions-please-episode-1-interview/ for my source including audio):
Roberts: Do you not think though, Richard, that a law against it [proprietary software] is in many ways restricting those people’s freedoms to— Stallman: No. That’s basically making a Russell paradox out of freedom. The freedom to give up your freedom, basically, conflicts with the idea of inalienable rights. There’s some rights that are threatened and important, and in order to make sure they continue to exist, they must be inalienable. When people’s right to sell themselves into slavery was abolished, that made society more free because it closed a path by which people became slaves. Roberts: Okay, yeah, that’s a good point.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_paradox for more on Russell paradoxes.
I don't think that gNewSense, as a distribution, must make extra effort not to be possible to install non-free software. But it should not make extra effort not to BREAK the users' systems that have non-free software installed. That's what most of the other GNU/Linux distros do -- they refrain from changes that might badly affect non-free software users or take care to add "Conflicts:" (or the equivalent of it) to reduce the harm these users could suffer. This is unacceptable for an ethical free software distribution.
I agree. By way of hypothetical example:- if you installed a non-free PDF reader and some gNewSense package somehow clobbered the settings to keep that program working, that's not a bug.
- if you installed a free PDF reader and some gNewSense package somehow clobbered the settings to keep that program working, that's a bug.
gNewSense is here to help you become and remain free, not to aid your dependency on non-free software.
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