Re: [Ranger-users] A new approach to build the user interface of the future!

[hut]

Hey Miodrag, got any idea what to do with all the keys that are unused now?

On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 12:54:02AM +0200, Miodrag Milic wrote:
> Nobody is being sarcastic here !
> 
> The change is already well documented (great work hut as always, cheers)
> RTFM and start testing ASAP, don't wait for free treatment, just buy some
> B6  <http://goo.gl/0Jxut7>and you are ready to go !
> 
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Gerald Klein <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> > What is the change?? Without the sarcasm
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:15 PM, feel.squally <address@hidden>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> With vim key bindings for scrolling down along the files in a directory
> >> you just need one finger typing j.
> >>
> >> I guess with emacs you need C+n that implies TWO fingers.
> >>
> >> Also, if this change is about a concern of freedom, is there the FREEDOM
> >> to choose between vim and emacs key bindings like tmux does?
> >> If so, I am happy with this change otherwise I think ranger will lose
> >> users pretty soon.
> >> Il 31/mar/2015 22:52 "Miodrag Milic" <address@hidden> ha
> >> scritto:
> >>
> >>> > Imagine a text editor where you can just type in some keys, and they
> >>> appear on
> >>> the screen.  Just like that.
> >>>
> >>> OMG, I didn't even know such thing exists!!!! PLEASE!!!
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Gerald Klein <address@hidden> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Can someone please tell if this is a joke, I'm serious I can't tell?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 3:20 PM, hut <address@hidden> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> So, ranger has been around for almost 6 years, and after all this time
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> optimizing and re-evaluating, I think we need a paradigm shift in the
> >>>>> way
> >>>>> ranger works.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There are going to be a few changes starting with the upcoming 1.7.0
> >>>>> release
> >>>>> which can be tested now already by running the current git version:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   git clone https://github.com/hut/ranger.git -b current
> >>>>>   cd ranger
> >>>>>   ./ranger.py
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I sincerely believe now that trying to copy the vim user experience
> >>>>> was wrong
> >>>>> on many levels, because clearly emacs is the better editor.  It's
> >>>>> build on the
> >>>>> idea of freedom, of elegance and of having to press modifier keys all
> >>>>> the time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If that doesn't convince you yet, how about this:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Imagine a text editor where you can just type in some keys, and they
> >>>>> appear on
> >>>>> the screen.  Just like that.  No silly modes, no crazy things
> >>>>> happening by
> >>>>> typing random characters on the keyboard (think ggdGZZ, it deletes
> >>>>> your whole
> >>>>> text, then saves the file and quits the editor!  How crazy is that?!)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No.  Using Emacs key bindings is the only sane way to do it.  Check
> >>>>> out the
> >>>>> new key bindings on the man page:
> >>>>> http://ranger.nongnu.org/ranger.1.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Of course ranger has no concept of "typing in text" like emacs does,
> >>>>> so typing
> >>>>> in keys without modifiers will do nothing at all.  Basically you will
> >>>>> have to
> >>>>> use modifier keys for everything you do.  But still it's obviously
> >>>>> better than
> >>>>> vim-like key bindings.  ***BONUS*** The first 100 to upgrade will get
> >>>>> a free
> >>>>> treatment for their future carpal tunnel syndrome!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> hut
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> Gerald Klein DBA
> >>>>
> >>>> address@hidden
> >>>>
> >>>> www.geraldklein.com <http://geraldklein.com/>
> >>>>
> >>>> geraldklein.wordpress.com
> >>>>
> >>>> address@hidden
> >>>>
> >>>> 708-599-0352
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>
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> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Gerald Klein DBA
> >
> > address@hidden
> >
> > www.geraldklein.com <http://geraldklein.com/>
> >
> > geraldklein.wordpress.com
> >
> > address@hidden
> >
> > 708-599-0352
> >
> >
> > Arch, Gentoo I3, Ranger & Vim the coding triple threat.
> >
> > Linux registered user #548580
> >
> > Brought to you by the Amish Mafia
> >
> >