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Re: [help-GIFT] Re: Region query for MRML/GIFT


From: Pruet Boonma
Subject: Re: [help-GIFT] Re: Region query for MRML/GIFT
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 04:34:13 +1100
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Hi,

I got a green light from David about the protocol. So this is my
extended DTD
Full DTD :
http://lulu.mptc.eng.cmu.ac.th:8080/pruet/docs/thesis/mrml.dtd
Patch again the CVS :
http://lulu.mptc.eng.cmu.ac.th:8080/pruet/docs/thesis/mrml_dtd.diff
Lastest DIA diagram (without gziped ^_^) :
http://lulu.mptc.eng.cmu.ac.th:8080/pruet/docs/thesis/xmlmrml.dia

Moreover, do I have to add some prefix for avoiding name crash ?

Please have a look, any comment are very welcome.

pruet


PS. about query-paradim, I and David agree with your suggestion,
it's clearly the better way for Ac/Qu combination. 


On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 01:13:48PM +0100, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
> On Thursday 07 March 2002 14:59, Pruet Boonma wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 09:24:03PM +0100, Wolfgang M?ller wrote:
> > > Dear Pruet,
> > >
> > > I appreciate a lot our discussion, and I would like to emphasize that
> > > anyone is welcome to participate.
> > >
> > > I guess we are still getting repercussions of my initial
> > > misunderstanding. I know it sounds silly, but could you make available
> > > your initial DIA file *and* the current version, and I look at both
> > > versions again? I think most of my misunderstanding is that when reading
> > > segment query I was thinking of query-by-segment and I still could not
> > > get this out of my head even when you rectified it. Sorry for that.
> >
> > This is the old one.
> > http://lulu.mptc.eng.cmu.ac.th:8080/pruet/docs/thesis/xmlmrml1.dia
> >
> > This is the new one.
> > http://lulu.mptc.eng.cmu.ac.th:8080/pruet/docs/thesis/xmlmrml.dia
> >
> > > Now trying to recall what I have seen of the first version you showed to
> > > me, and the later ones, I think it might be good to separate two things:
> > >
> > > i) query by segment: here the query as well as the result should be
> > > syntactically as close to the "normal" query by example as possible, as I
> > > outlined in previous mails. This means a syntax like your example from
> > > your last mail:
> > >
> > > <query-result>
> > >    <query-result-element-list>
> > >       <query-result-element
> > >           calculated-similarity="1.000000"
> > >           image-location="http://localhost/1.jpg";
> > >           thumbnail-location="...">
> > >          <query-result-element-segment-list>
> > >             <query-result-element-segment segment-id="1">
> > >                <box>
> > >                 ...
> > >                </box>
> > >             </query-result-element-segment >
> > >             ...
> > >          </query-result-element-segment-list>
> > >       </query-result-element>
> > >    </query-result-element-list>
> > > </query-result>
> >
> > I strongly believe that this is the one that I want to do. So, in this
> > case, it should be an extension of query-step and query-result.
> 
> OK. As my two suggestions don't exclude each other I think it is surely a 
> good idea to go ahead and implement the stuff. Have fun!
> 
> (Snip)
> 
> > Ok, you can see that it's possible to put segment data into this scheme.
> > However, it will make it's more complicate and make exceptions or
> > special cases in parsing.
> 
> I don't completely agree with that. However, I think let's leave the start of 
> this new discussion in the list, and if it becomes necessary, we can further 
> purusue this idea and its discussion.
> 
> (Snip)
> 
> I am looking forward to seeing your solution :-)
> At some point, which is not yet fully determined, I will be off mail for a 
> couple of days(/weeks?), as I am taking a new job, and things will be a bit 
> hectic for a while. So please continue to be indulgent.
> 
> Cheers,
> Wolfgang
> 
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