Re: The way to promote GUIX package manager

[Yasuaki Kudo]

This is a comment from a very different angle - another way to promote Guix is 
in the emerging (so I would like to believe 😅) worker cooperatives sector - 
there is a call for democratically directed software development (not in the 
do-o-cracy way that happens due to information asymmetry between "producers" 
and "consumers")

GNU Guix can offer maximum transparency and user friendliness 😄

-Yasu


> On Jan 28, 2022, at 08:36, Bengt Richter <bokr@bokr.com> wrote:
> 
> On +2022-01-26 23:42:05 +0100, Ricardo Wurmus wrote:
>> 
>> Yasuaki Kudo <yasu@yasuaki.com> writes:
>> 
>>> Does Guix really run out of the box in Debian?
>>> 
>>> I have never tried it but my friend Debian expert friend keeps telling me 
>>> that:
>>> 
>>> * Just apt-get installing Guix doesn't work
>> 
>> How does “apt install guix” not work?  There’s an older version of Guix
>> in Debian.  After installing it “guix pull” should get the latest
>> version and it all works.
>> 
> 
> What does "apt search guix" produce?
> (Nothing, on the puri.sm variant of debian. They maintain a custom
> pool based on debian minus what they want to exclude AIUI)
> 
>> There’s also an installer script at https://guix.gnu.org/install.sh
>> which skips the detour through apt and gets you the latest release
>> directly.
>> 
>>> * and his really big complaint is evidently he creates "virtual
>>> environments" (short of full-on VMware, I imagine it is an assortment
>>> of Linux native tricks that are wrapped by tools like Docker) for
>>> every OS he tries but
>>> * Evidently the same tricks don't work with Guix
>> 
>> Is this not *exactly* what “guix shell” (formerly “guix enviromnent”)
>> does?  “guix shell -C” enters a container, even, using the same Linux
>> namespace mechanism that Docker wraps.
>> 
>>> * He does not want to try full blown Guix OS without first testing it in 
>>> above ways
>> 
>> Guix can comfortably be used outside of Guix System.  And you can
>> *still* use most “guix system” commands, e.g. to build containers or
>> virtual machines.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Ricardo
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Bengt Richter