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Re: [gNewSense-users] gNewSense at 12800 ft high in the Andes mountains


From: Karl Goetz
Subject: Re: [gNewSense-users] gNewSense at 12800 ft high in the Andes mountains
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:33:13 +0930

On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 20:37 -0500, Quiliro Ordóñez wrote:
> Hello fellow freedom fighters.
> 
> I am currently installing a mini lab at a school in a small community
> in the highlands of the Andes Mountains very far away from the cities.
> We are hoping this will set an example so we can "sell" the idea of a
> massive program to include free software in all public schools. We
> have 5 old machines with 24 MB and 2 dual core with 1GB
> 

This is quite light on RAM, but i belive LTSP5 allows networked swap for
the clients.

> 
> I have been able to acheive several things:
> 
> Install gNewSense 2.0 (lost 2.1).
> Install packages that I saved in another CD with updates
> Install language packages though: System --> Administration -->
> Language Support --> Supported Languages --> Spanishl; Castellano -->
> Acept (the packages from the CD were helpfull for this too)
> 
> By the way,  what I did to include the packages that I had downloaded
> from internet was to copy /var/cache/apt from a machine that had them
> already to a CD-ROM. Then I copied them to a new machine and changed
> the permissions after installation as follows:
> $ sudo su - # So they get copied as root user as it was originally.
> # cp -r /media/cdrom1/apt /var/cache/
> # chmod +x /var/cache/apt/*
> # chmod u+x /var/cache/apt/archives/*
> # exit

I suspect this could have been done just as well by `sudo
cp /media/cdrom1/apt/archives/*deb /var/cache/apt/archives/`

> $
> 
> $ sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone openssh-server
> 
> Everything OK up to here but....

Not speaking spanish, i'll try as much as i can.

> 
> $ sudo ltsp-build-client
> /usr/share/ltsp/plugins/ltsp-build-client/common/010-chroot-tagging:
> line 3: /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ltsp_chroot: No existe el fichero ó
> directorio
> error: la instalación del cliente LTSP finalizó de forma anormal
> 
> I looked in internet and found:
> https://listas.hispalinux.es/pipermail/ltsp-es/2008-March/004176.html
> http://pesegueiro.blogsome.com/2007/12/04/configurando-el-servidor-ltsp5-en-edubuntu-710/
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/2007-September/002211.html
> 

Again, i dont speak spanish, but i can say Oliver knows his stuff - hes
the LTSP person in Ubuntu :)

> I proceeded as they said, like this:
> :
> $ lsb_release -i -s 
> gNewSense
> $ sudo nano /usr/sbin/ltsp-build-client
> 
> Replaced:
> VENDOR=$(lsb_release -i -s)
> with:
> VENDOR="Ubuntu"
> 
> $ sudo ltsp-build-client
> NOTA: añadiendo disttribución y componentes predeterminados al
> servidor de seguridad:
> http://security.ubuntu.com//ubuntu deltah main restricted
> NOTE: Root directory /opt/ltsp/i386 already exists, this will lead to
> problems, please remove it before trying again. Exiting.
> error: la instalación del cliente LTSP finalizó de forma anormal

It now looks for 'deltah', the codename of gNewSense's 2.x release, not
'hardy', codename of Ubuntus 8.04.x release.

Check if you can find a place to hard code this (like you did with
VENDOR).

> $ sudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386
> $ sudo ltsp-build-client
> NOTA: añadiendo disttribución y componentes predeterminados al
> servidor de seguridad:
> http://security.ubuntu.com//ubuntu deltah main restricted
> E: No such script: /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/deltah
> error: la instalación del cliente LTSP finalizó de forma anormal

Same problem.

> $ sudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386
> $ sudo ltsp-build-client --security-mirror
> http://ec.security.gnewsense.org/gnewsense/ deltah-security main
> universe
> NOTA: añadiendo disttribución y componentes predeterminados al
> servidor de seguridad:
> http://ec.security.gnewsense.org/gnewsense//ubuntu deltah main
> restricted
> E: No such script: /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/deltah
> error: la instalación del cliente LTSP finalizó de forma anormal

Its not possible to build a deltah chroot (that I'm aware of), as we
dont patch [c]debootstrap to support it (I started writing one in the
past, just never got around to finishing it)

> $
> 
> Possibly officials from the Ministry of education might be visiting
> the school this week and I would like to show them the project
> working. ¿Could you give me a hand?
> 

We can try.

> 
> 
> The name of the community is Qulapungo. It has a school with 200
> students of up to sixth grade. Quilapungo is located 3 km from
> Quilotoa Lake. It is a lake that has no affluents and is inside the
> crater of a volcano. In Quilapungo the inhabitants are
> all native american indians and our objective is for them to know
> about free software.
> 
> Quilotoa Lake
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-0.85&lon=-78.9&zoom=12&layers=B000FTF

Good luck, I've spent time helping a hospital [1] in Papua New Guinea
(admitedly deploying Ubuntu). They hope it will serve as an example in
their country as well :)

[1] http://www.ggh.org.pg/
kk

> 
-- 
Karl Goetz <address@hidden>

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