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Re: [gNewSense-users] Mono & gNewSense
From: |
Karl Goetz |
Subject: |
Re: [gNewSense-users] Mono & gNewSense |
Date: |
Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:30:34 +1030 |
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 14:33 -0500, Brian Kemp wrote:
> Don,
>
> No need for debate. You find it interesting...we did it to death over
> on the Gobuntu-devel mailing list. :)
Full archive here - you'd have to search out the specific threads :)
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/gobuntu-devel/
>
> Mono is in gNewSense. The System.Xml namespace isn't in there for
> some reason, but I assume that's just ancient versions talking...
(from what i understand) Mono is making its way further into gnome, so
parts of it wont really be optional in the future.
>
> Mono may or may not be patented; Novell was talking about working
> around patents that crop up, but since the little deal Microsoft
> worked out with them, they may just not care and a fork may be
> necessary.
It is covered by patents - and thats more then the 'exit codes' patents.
>
> That being said--Mono is Freely licensed, copyright-wise.
> Trademark-wise it isn't an issue, and Patent-wise...isn't an
> issue...yet.
Its a patent time bomb, and we dont know if it'll explode. I havent seen
many people who are happy with the RAND it comes with.
>
> Therefore as it stands right now it's in gNewSense. It is not
> installed by Default.
I dont know of anything we removed from our (existing) archives because
of patents.
>
> Gobuntu does have Mono installed by default--I haven't totally
> verified this, but I believe F-Spot is written in C# with GTK#, and
> F-Spot IS installed by default. (Not that gphoto doesn't work...)
last i checked fspot came as 'fspot.exe'... it felt really weird to run
it without wine. *grin*
>
> This means that for the next version of gNewSense, based off of
> Gobuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron" we will have to make a decision whether we
> want to use the .NET stuff.
Lets see what happens :)
>
> Honestly, it doesn't matter to me. It can be added or removed with
> ease. sudo aptitude purge and all that.
It can at the moment. the question is what might become dependant on it
(lacking a crystal ball we have to wait to see what happens).
>
> Karl Goetz will most likely respond to this with "Mono. Is. Free.
> Software." like he's done before on the gobuntu mailing lists. (I'll
> save you the trouble, kk :))
cheers :)
remember, its _free software_ , but its _patent encumbered_ .
kk
>
> --BK
>
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Karl Goetz,
Debian user / Ubuntu contributor / gNewSense contributor
http://www.kgoetz.id.au