Re: [Fsedu-developers] Reorganization of the wiki

[Wouter Vanden Hove]

Op di 27-05-2003, om 17:44 schreef James Michael DuPont:
> --- Wouter Vanden Hove <address@hidden> wrote:
> > Hi, 
> > some questions.
> > 
> > 
> > What are your thoughts on 
> > *) Metadata 
> > there are some official standards for packaging e-learning objects?
> > (LOM, SCORM)
> Do you have any links?
> I hope that we can use rdf to support meta-data.
> 
http://www.imsglobal.org/metadata/index.cfm

LOM: Learning Object Metadata
http://ltsc.ieee.org/wg12/doc.html

http://dublincore.org/
this is the basic one with around 16 items, a lot of other standards are
based on Dublin Core

Open Source Metadata Framework
http://www.ibiblio.org/osrt/omf/
for metadata of free software documentation, based on dublin core

Connexions has a XML-format: CNML
http://cnx.rice.edu/content/col10121/latest/

HEML has an XML-format: HEML
Historical Event Markup and Linking project
http://www.heml.org



> > 
> > *)Classification
> > once the project gets large, how do you structure it?
> 
> I hope to use again an RDF ontology/TopicMap for the classification of
> the knowledge.
> 
> The structure of a one project internallay is a good question.
Planetmath uses the AMS mathematics subject classification
http://planetmath.org/?op=mscbrowse
http://www.ams.org/msc/

I wonder if there exists an equivalent for other sciences.

> 
> > 
> > *)Does someone have any knowledge with:
> > frameworks like
> > Midgard, http://www.midgard-project.org/
> > Zope, www.zope.org
> > Mit Open Knowledge Framework
> > Apache Cocoon,..
> > Noösphere, the Planetmath.org-engine
> 
> Not yet. but There is a plan to make a zope like gui for the bookml
> according to jilks.

There a education project around Zope
www.eduzope.org
and there is already a zope-wiki, zwiki.
The Connexions Wiki is Zwiki.
Does anybody have access to a server where we could play around with
these frameworks?
> 
> > 
> > Most of the time we talk about content creation.
> > OK, what what if the content is created?
> > IMHO the content-creation layers should be separated from the
> > presentation layer.
> 
> yes, that is the idea of the bookml/ oddmuse:raw formats.
> 
> > 
> > If I read a course on algebra it shouldn't matter wat tools the
> > authors
> > used.
> > 
> > A wiki is good for continuous development, but it's not very suited
> > for
> > presentation, alos a wiki presupposes that you do your writing
> > online,
> > unlike cvs.
> 
> We will need to have the wiki use some repository in the backend.
> right now we need to be able to rescue what is in the wiki.
> 
> > 
> >  I think a kind of library with "stable" releases from the wiki would
> > be
> > nice. GNUtemberg is a kind a library, but they just contains links to
> > Free Works.http://www.gfdd.org/
> > By making a stable release you could optionally go through a peer
> > review
> > process.
> > 
> > 
> > It would be nice if the resulting work is a "package", just like a
> > *.deb
> > of an RPM-file. 
> > containing:
> > 
> > metadata according to offical standards, like Dublin Core
> > a XML-masterfile,
> > some fixed-named directories like 
> > /images, 
> > /css for different stylesheets
> > /scripts ,containing some useful scripts like convertors to other
> > fileformats, a script for generating a table of contents,...
> 
> sounds good!
> 
> > 
> > the package can then be shipped as a gzipped tarball
> > of there are many tarballs on a subject a distribution can be made
> > mathematics, biology,...
> > 
> > for textbooks, the modules of the Connexions Project are a very
> > interesting case study.
> > This is the Connexions wiki: 
> > http://bunker.ece.rice.edu:8080/mntb/wikis/
> > 
> > For reference works planetmath.org seems the best system to me.
> > 
> > 
> > Wouter Vanden Hove
> > http://www.open-education.org
> > http://www.opencursus.be
> > 
> > 
> > Op ma 26-05-2003, om 19:06 schreef Peter Minten: 
> > > Hi folks,
> > > 
> > > I talked to mdupont on IRC yesterday about reorganizing the wiki so
> > that books
> > > and other educational material can be written in it. We agreed on
> > the following
> > > approach:
> > > * The wiki pages will be a mix of RDF, BookML (aka Docbook + MathML
> > + ChemML)
> > > and wiki type markup.
> > > * Scripts will transform the wiki pages into the following output
> > formats:
> > >   - Wiki HTML
> > >   - Docbook
> > >   - LaTeX
> > >   - RDF
> > > * The wiki is reorganized around four central themes:
> > >   - Tool generation (for example the wiki scripts)
> > >   - Educational content generation (writing textbooks, making
> > slides, etc)
> > >   - Advocacy (carrying out our message to schools)
> > >   - FSEDU (anything not in the previous three categories)
> > > 
> > > We believe that with this approach the wiki will be much more
> > useful. For
> > > example it will be possible to write books directly in the wiki.
> > > 
> > > Greetings,
> > > 
> > > Peter
> > > 
> > > 
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